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Training Status - Unproductive

Hi all,

So after an active week, I ran an easy pace trail of 8 miles this morning with a group.
On completion, my Garmin is telling me that my training status is unproductive.

I'm just trying to understand why it may be saying that - what information does it use to provide that result?
My thoughts is that because the trail run this morning was significantly slower than my usual pace, it is assuming my fitness level is deteriorating.

I'd love to hear other peoples experienced with the training status feature.

Kind regards,
  • I usually get unproductive when i do a run at a leisurely pace. the FB algorithms don't seem to think recovery runs or what my training plans call general aerobic runs have any value.

    according to Fb algorithms i should just do intervals all the time. according to them the aerobic training effect of a 5x1000m session is greater than that of a 34km run...


    Agree , the message being sent is incorrect to the user that doesn’t understand that the easy runs are just as (if not more) important as the intervals.
  • At this point in time, a large portion of the civilized world that can afford these devices, is living in near-freezing or below conditions, including snow, wind and ice. Many athletes are training on treadmills. I did so for two weeks straight - doing long runs, tempo runs, intervals and easy runs all on the dreadmill. At the end, my training was progressing well based on my program.

    The device recorded my HR, and I was wearing the RDP. I adjusted the distance after each run based on treadmill calibration.

    What did my Garmin super watch tell me after 2 weeks? Unproductive, and then No Status. Treadmill data is basically ignored.

    Useful? Not.

  • Has anyone used the 'Elevate' extension for Chrome? This plugs into Strava and gives loads of data such as 'fitness trend'. Now I am no pro athlete but there are loads of stats on there, this might help people who don't get what they want out of GC.

    https://thomaschampagne.github.io/elevate/#/landing
  • When I have run hilly, high-elevation gain runs, my Fenix 6 has labeled them as “unproductive”. My take is that it mis-judges from my expectedly lower pace (5:30mins/km in 250m uphill in a 10k run, compared to my 5:05mins/km on my normal totally flat 10k run) that my VO2max has deteriorated, which is most certainly not the case.

    I therefore suggest you recalibrate your training to include a flat, fast run of the same length which you will perform at your best pace, to give the software a chance to measure your performance unobstructed by the uphills.

    Having said that, I find it very disappointing that Garmin doesn’t take into account the productive VO2max training that running uphills gives.

  • @alkis - You are commenting on a 3 year old issue!!!