No native data fields for ambient pressure and barometric pressure?

In my F3, I could enable native data fields for ambient pressure and barometric pressure in a custom data screen in an activity. I can't find any such option on the F5X+.

Have they pulled it, or am I just looking in the wrong place?
  • Oh wait. Not like the f5..... I don't see them either.. But easy to do in CIQ. Maybe there's something in the app store already.
  • Yes, there are some in the app store, and I have had them installed before.

    But I am a bit wary of those because it is unclear whether they use the ambient pressure reading directly from the watch or calculates it backwards from barometric pressure and barometric altitude. Some of them at least used to use the latter method because early CIQ did not provide access to ambient pressure.

    Edit:
    I installed the CIQ widget called "Ambient pressure". It shows an ambient pressure, an altitude and a barometric pressure.
    The altitude is equal to the one in the native ABC widget.
    The ambient pressure seems close to what I would expect, based on the native ABC widget's altitude and barometric pressure.
    But the barometric pressure in the CIQ widget is way off from the barometric pressure in the native ABC widget.
  • With CIQ, both ambient and MSL is available based on what the FW calculates, so that is what you should see.

    Activity.Info.ambientPressure and Activity.Info.meanSeaLevelPressure in CIQ terms!

    For discrepancies, are you sure nothing changed? That can include just opening the fridge or a fan coming on. Or a strong wind. And temperate comes into play, so if the watch warmed a bit.
  • I think its a known issue and Garmin will fix/add it via fw update.
  • With CIQ, both ambient and MSL is available based on what the FW calculates, so that is what you should see.

    Activity.Info.ambientPressure and Activity.Info.meanSeaLevelPressure in CIQ terms!

    For discrepancies, are you sure nothing changed? That can include just opening the fridge or a fan coming on. Or a strong wind. And temperate comes into play, so if the watch warmed a bit.


    My point regarding CIQ availability was that what you describe has not always been the case. The apps I know are from before ambient pressure got available in CIQ. So the developers of those apps may have updated the apps to use the ambient pressure when it became available in CIQ - or they may not have done that. I can't really know.

    Regarding the difference between barometric pressure in the native ABC widget and the CIQ widget: It was a difference of several millibars, during unchanged conditions. I know what a change of just a few tenths of a millibar feels like. And - which is the important part - the factors you describe should affect the ambient pressure measured by the watch, and that was unchanged and equal in the two apps during my comparison.
  • I think its a known issue and Garmin will fix/add it via fw update.


    Do you have a source for that? I searched but couldn't find this mentioned anywhere.

    And leaving it out appears to me more like something which would happen as the result deliberate decision, not by error. So if it is not there, I would assume that it was Garmin's intention that it should not be there anymore.