Question while using Training Peaks for Runners

vanhalen26 (nice handle!)

Are you using the Garmin RD Pod and collecting power data by any chance?

I actually was looking at this very issue.

From my running workout, the FIT file gets uploaded automatically to Training Peaks. I'm using the RD Pod, and I use the Combo Power ConnectIQ app.
The FIT file gives crazy TSS - an hour run will be TSS of 200, which of course - coming from a cycling background - is insane, because by definition, going all out for an hour is TSS of 100.
My working theory is that because my running power number is significantly higher than my cycling power number (which is fine, there's no reason the cycling & running power numbers should be the same), TP is looking at my 'power for an hour' number and my (cycling) FTP and determining the TSS from that. Which seems weird, Training Peaks is smart enough to know the workout is a run, you'd think it'd be smart enough to not use the cycling power numbers.

From Garmin Connect, you can also download a TCX file. Upload that to Training Peaks, and it will give you a far more realistic rTSS score, assuming you've set a 'threshold pace' in Training Peaks.

I'm hardly an expert at this; just been dabbling in it myself for a month or so as I only started running recently; only been cycling previously. Would be interested in hearing what Training Peaks has to say.

Just do a threshold test and get your FTP estimate. Then configure a separate running power profile in the settings page. With Stryd at least I'm getting much more consistent results and easier to compare to my cycling scores than with rTSS.

Just do a threshold test and get your FTP estimate. Then configure a separate running power profile in the settings page. With Stryd at least I'm getting much more consistent results and easier to compare to my cycling scores than with rTSS.

Your running power is not going to be the same as your cycling power - there's no reason why it would be - and if it is similar, it's purely coincidental.

Training peaks wrote me back. It’s because I am collecting power data while running. When I removed the field, Training Peaks went back to rTSS.

So I guess if I want running power as a field, I need to remember to go into training peaks and toggle the data and then it’s fine. Too bad you need to do the toggle from a PC - the app won’t allow.

vanhalen26, I just accidentally discovered that you should be able to change TSS to rTSS in Training Peaks. Click on the workout and scroll down a bit, there's a downward-facing triangle next to TSS. From there you can select TSS, hrTSS or rTSS.

I'm also collecting power data with my run, but am able to change from TSS to rTSS - see pic attached.

You can also add threshold running power in Training Peaks - go to [Settings] - [Zones]. In my case, even for a running workout, TP was using my 'default' power numbers, which obviously skewed things. See second pic attached; you can add specific threshold power numbers for cycling and running. Using this results in realistic TSS which 'feel' right. If needed, you can go back and have previous workouts recalculated (click on the workout, click File, then 'Recalculate').ciq.forums.garmin.com/.../1384208.jpg

Your running power is not going to be the same as your cycling power - there's no reason why it would be - and if it is similar, it's purely coincidental.

That's a whole another matter and not what I discussed here. If you do FTP test for both activities they will give you similar TSS as the score is relative to your FTP. At least in general.

Of course in reality it's not as simple as that as power curves are different between sports and even individuals between the same sport, but again that's another matter. Xert is getting closer but it has it's flaws too and doesn't even try to do multisport.

JTH9 -- are you using Xert to analyze your running data?

Tried it yeah, but eventually gave up since it's still too much hassle to set up separate accounts etc.