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GPS accuracy very bad !!

Hi,

Tried yesterday the GPS for the first time (GPS + Galileo) and I was very disappointed but the quality of the trace. I am in Paris so in city but I ve never a so bad GPS. In the same area, my Ambit 2 is perfect and following my route but with the Fenix 5X plus, I have more than 40 meters error sometimes !!

I can't understand how a watch costing 4 times a GPS watch can be so bad !! Is there something to do ? I sync it with Garmin connect mobile to have last sat data.

May be it can be a technical problem with the watch... Is there a widget to check GPS accuracy ?

Thanks
  • falconeye75 i don't know what to say, but that looks horrible. It also doesn't match my experience
  • Your on a track surround by tall buildings that our randomly bouncing the single around and this has always been a F3 and above weak spot

    My old Polar RCX5 with shoulder mount GPS gives a perfect track everywhere but had other shortcomings which is why it sits in i might use that again someday bin
  • Yes I am surroundes by tall buildings and I could have accept theses results if my Suunto watch bought in 2013 was not so good, but if this Suunto is perfect, why a so high end device like this Fenix 5X plus cannot manage to give good results also.

    Some people said they could coordonate artillery launch with this watch... I think they must hate their fellow...


  • I don't know how bloguers could claim that this watch was very precise, we must not have the same watch or Gamin did not give them the same model. I have never seen a so bad watch in accuracy.


    I'm also choked by the results you got. Nothing seems to work on yours: GPS, HR, Ox, the battery... What will be next ? The band ? The buttons ? ... Got friends with 5X with great accuracy for a year of continual hard use (on boats and in the military).
    (Heck !! Even Alexandre Benalla wears a Garmin !!!) ;-)
    https://img.aws.la-croix.com/2018/07..._0_728_510.jpg

    I'm just back from the week-end and I have been using intensively mine.
    Perfect tracks, perfect sync, no HR issues, no stress issues, ABC perfect.... and 78% of battery left.
    YMMV but my tracks was even played on "Relive" for friends.

    In car using Ultratrack
    https://www.relive.cc/view/g22910336197

    Strolling using GPS+Glonass
    https://www.relive.cc/view/g22894290351

    To each their own but for you: time for a refund while you still can ! ;-)
  • I tried the Fenix 5X Plus this morning and compared it to my old Suunto Ambit 2 that was purchased at half the price of the Fenix. I can't understand how this watch is so bad !! It is meant to be for professionnal but even a chineese GPS watch is better. I was with GPS + Galileo.

    Just before beginning my race, I wait about 15 minutes with the GPS on to be sure it will have a good fix.

    I don't know how bloguers could claim that this watch was very precise, we must not have the same watch or Gamin did not give them the same model. I have never seen a so bad watch in accuracy.

    For people who are hesitating about purchasing this Fenix Plus, DON'T BUY IT. Don't spend 850 Euros for a piece of garbage like this.

    I think they are aware their GPS is so bad that is why theyu removed precision information. On previous Garmin watch, we had a precision value in meters that was very useful to know if the GPS willl be ok or not but now, we have no information about precision.



    This result truly baffle me. I have suunto 9 and i'm also now trying 5X Plus, don't get me wrong, and i know in general, suunto 9 has more accurate GPS, as of now, but to be frank, i have never gotten result that bad using 5X Plus.

    You might have gotten a damaged unit that you might want to return for check or replacement.
  • I am not sure NemoSandman's "strolling with GPS + Glonass" track is objectively that good. I wonder how much of people's satisfaction with the accuracy of their units is dependent on their starting expectations - at least in borderline (perhaps the majority of) situations. However, I have to agree that falconeye75's running track gps recording is so bad that there is almost certainly something else going on that is causing performance well outside the normal [in]accuracy parameters.
  • I was walking under high trees, in an old city, going in and out of shops, crossing streets, not going straight with an old dog pulling at her leash... Strolling is strolling. :-D
    Been swimming... Let's wait if Falconeye75's will try that. I can see another thread: "Swimming with 5XPlus Not Accurate !!"
    very soon !! Because once dip in the water: GPS is lost.... unless you tow a buoy or use two fenix at each arms, the traces will be funky !!
  • I think I will change it. I phoned to the shop and they told me they will change it. I am wondering (but I don't know if it's possible to be refunded).

    The GPS is bad (JAN502 seems also to have difficulties with GPS), the OX is bad, the HR is bad. They told it wil last 20 days in watch mode, I am about 10% per day without GPS. And if I use Gearmin watchface (amazing and very beautiful), I am about 1% per hour !!

    NemoSandman, you will not have to wait for my review when swimming, DC rainmaker made a comparaison between Fenix 5X+ and the Suunto 9 and Fenix 5X was horrible :). See his video on Youtube. I think you are a lucky man !! It could be interresting to see what your trace looks in Paris.
  • NemoSandman, you will not have to wait for my review when swimming, DC rainmaker made a comparaison between Fenix 5X+ and the Suunto 9 and Fenix 5X was horrible :). See his video on Youtube. I think you are a lucky man !! It could be interresting to see what your trace looks in Paris.


    I will look at it ! :-)
    Here is a stroll in the Hausmanian Parisian land. Again I'm walking and not running... It was Bastille Day and a gentleman will walk but never run. :-D

    https://www.relive.cc/view/g22652654030


  • But I have digged in my archives and found a old Fenix 5X (not plus) track for comparaison:

    https://www.relive.cc/view/g18819448124

    And it was actually much better.
    I don't think it's a hardware issue but a software as, like I have said, the "stay on this road" function is not working...
    So there is something to notice. :-)
    I will switch back to GPS only (and leave Glonass and Galileo) as it was the way my old 5X (not plus) was set for much better results. I'll keep you post. :-)

    Also looking at
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF_KMeKB708

    Never I have seen such a bad tracking with a Garmin ever.
    I think they need to change the way it behave when the sensors "feel" it is underwater (sudden change of pressure).

    It's like serial amnesia of the GPS position.

    Or Garmin amnesia in that matter:
    https://forums.garmin.com/forum/on-t...-the-gps-issue

    (double post because of one of the multiple bugs of this forums....)