Garmin 66i

As a geologist, I have used a Garmin gps for almost twenty years, first a gps60 and later the gps64. Although these instruments had their quirks, they performed well and kept me safe in the remote locations in which I work. Earlier this year, I felt the need to upgrade to a new gps and purchased a gps66i. I chose the gps66i because Garmins website advertised that the instrument “takes pictures”. After purchase, I found that the gps did NOT take pictures, but it could accept downloads of air photos and satellite  imagery. Ok, stupid me. But I did spend about $800 on the instrument, considerably more than the cost of the gps60 and gps64.

 

So imagine my disappointment when I took the gps66i into the field and started to use it. Following is a list of several complaints.

  1. It does not take batteries. How is this helpful?

 

  1. When I navigate to a waypoint, the gps tells me it is calculating. Normally this does not take long but sometimes it goes on and on trying to do this calculation. Previous Garmin gps did not tell me it was calculating. It just gave me an instantaneous bearing and distance to the selected waypoint.

 

  1. When I want to select a target waypoint for navigation, I have to type in the number or name of the waypoint using the cumbersome type writer. But then, having typed in the waypoint and pressed go to, I am taken to the end of the waypoint list, not to the selected waypoint. Instead, I have to scroll back to the waypoint I selected.

 

  1. MOST EGREGIOUSLY, after I selected a waypoint that I wanted to revisit, the gps told me it was 6.5 km from my present position and that I should go via “Wongawol Road”. I knew that this road was somewhere in the area but had never been on the road or knowingly viewed the road since I had arrived by helicopter. I knew that the point I wanted to visit was only about 600 metres away, not 6.5 km and reverted to my compass to get there. This sort of misleading response from your product has the potential to put my life in danger, so it made me very cross.

 

  1. On several occasions, my attempt to mark a waypoint (Mark, Enter) generated a duplicate of the previous waypoints coordinates, even though I have walked several hundreds of metres from the previous waypoint. This has happened numerous times. Such errors lead to loss of work effort, or having to retrace my steps, leading to lost time.

 

Finally, Garmin does not appear to offer any help line - telephone or online chat. In fact, it seems to deliberately avoid customer contact. Instead, we are encouraged to view “helpful videos”, none of which address the numerous problems I have outlined. This is why I resorted to leaving a rude message on your Facebook page. I admit to being surprise that you responded.

 

 It is a good thing I took my gps64 to my remote worksite location, as backup. Elsewise, I could have lost a weeks work, or even perished.

 

Sincerely

Walter Witt

  • I have both 76CSx and 78sc and I can confirm that earlier devices did not exhibit this behavior.

    The same functionality is still achieved on these after scrolling elsewhere on the map, but via much safer more deliberate and intuitive sequences:

    • To go to the new location is: Enter, then Enter again on the "Go"
    • To save that location as a waypoint is: Enter, then Menu, then Enter  again on the "Save as Waypoint"

    A long press on both these devices will save your current location so it is assured, and much simpler and safer. For example, when paddling a kayak in rough seas.

    I've also been caught out on the 66i after long presses after inadvertent scrolling which is not hard to do with cold gloved hands. It annoys the heck out of me as it's inconsistent with the other devices, and too fiddly to get right in an emergency in difficult circumstances. One of the reasons I've kept the other two and won't use 66i on the boats.

  • Hi twolpert,

    Thanks to your advice on my original thread, I did post suggestions on September 26th.

    No reply so far. If the device will not be brought up to what the manual says the other way around is crucial. Making the user absolutely aware of the two different map modes, "panning" and "normal (perhaps?)", is most important. 

    Not sure how to open a support ticket.

    Your diligent effort on this forum is indispensable for us newbies here!

    Thanks, Villi

  • Thanks Walter,

    My concern is that mixing the needs of fitness competition with mountaineering safety is compromising the latter. A case in point is how easily both track recording and inReach tracking can be inadvertently stopped, overriding a safety measure already designed in for us mountaineers.

    Should we perhaps suggest a new device profile, called "Mountaineering"? Stripped of fitness needs and designed for maximum safety under adverse conditions?

    Villi

  • Hi Wombo24,

    Just noticed the need to shift to page 2 to see your comments hours ago.

    I realize that other activities share the need for safety with mountaineering. So perhaps something like “Safety First” would be a more appropriate name for a new device profile?

    Thanks for support,

    Villi

  • Waypoint Marking is pretty straight forward. 

    Press the MARK button while viewing any page on the device and your current location is saved as a new waypoint, unless you have the Map page open and you have panned the map cursor to another location,  in which case that location is saved as the new waypoint. 

    Seems very simple to me. 

    If you need to make certain your current location is always saved as the new waypoint location, simply exit the map page first!

  • Thanks atlas. On which page of the 300 page Users Manmual is this explained?

  • Thanks atlas. On which page of the 300 page Users Manmual is this explained?

    Dunno.

    I write my own manual.

  • I’m sure someone from Garmin will read this thread and adjust the manual if necessary or check to see if you’re experiencing a bug or try to determine if you had some user error.  

    The link below explains how to mark a waypoint from the map.  Maybe they just need to copy/paste/incorporate  that little section that explains how to mark a waypoint while on the map in to the manual.  

    https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=5seDcVXeNb2xWfyyPkyVFA

    i’m going to go outside (in the cold) here in a few minutes and check to make sure it’s not a bug that you’re experiencing.  

  • A Garmin employee may see this. IMO, the chances of that resulting in a change to the manual are not very good.

  • I would prefer it simply worked the same as the previous devices rather than another profile.

    All the functionality is still there, just more appropriate implementation for the target market.