Add Putt Length prompt to watch to improve data collection and accuracy

I've seen similar requests for improvements like this going back years so part of me is wondering "what is the point of asking" but here it goes....

Garmin watch should ask for the length of the 1st putt on each hole. This can be asked after you confirm score and # of putts. It can be as simple as confirming a range of distances and picking one.

value is We/Garmin would be able to track the length of our first putt. What does that tell us?

  • Accurate putt success from different putt lengths (as we know the distance and we know the # of putts on that hole.) There is no need to track the 2nd or 3rd putt as eventually there would be lots of data from the 1st putt to know how well we are putting from all distances.
  • Accurate Strokes Gained for putting at all these different lengths vs currently trusting the CT10 sensor which can be off by 3-6ft and doesn't have a clue where the hole is.
  • More Accurate Strokes Gained on approach shots as we know exactly how long the putt length is.
  • More Accurate Strokes Gained for Around the Greens chipping and pitching.

The GPS should be used to fine tune estimates on hole location (front, middle, back) but the real math would be the help of that putt distance being entered.

In my opinion, Garmin should recognize the limitations of a product (CT10 sensor on putter) and adjust to do the most with what can be collected. Unless they can provide details on how exactly that CT10 sensor on my putter calculates putts and accuracy, I just don't believe there is any value to the current data.

Make the prompt for distance optional in settings so it doesn't impact the flow of the game for golfers who are not interested in this type of detail.

  • Great post. The stats “pack” from Garmin is lacking compared to their competition. The putting stats are basically useless. I’m all for a revamped putting approach on the watch. 

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago

    I’ve just bought an S62. Used it today for the first time. Based on the limited putting data, I’m sending it back. 

    If you hit a green in reg it doesn’t mark the 1st shot distance accurately given the 1st putt distance isn’t measured. Maybe I'm mistaken. Someone, please enlighten me if so. 

  • I'd say the putting data is basically useless on the Garmin site.

    No data is presented well. No clear explanation of how data is collected or what is being presented to us.

    You can't see details at the hole level, or at the round level. Just a rolling average over past 10 rounds. Just a big pile of nonsense.

    People have been asking for years to see improvements and nothing has changed from the Garmin side. Years. That tells you how little they care and how likely a change is coming.

    If you are looking for that, return the watch.

    Only good thing to say is that watch is great. Really enjoy it.

  • Thank you for the feedback. We have a ticket open with our engineers in the hopes we can improve the overall understanding of performance stats and tracking putts. I would be happy to add you to both. I am sending you a private message to gather additional details. 

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to CFAnPEI

    Thanks for the reply - it's an interesting one as in - I don't think anyone has truly cracked the tracking side of things yet.

    I've tried…

    Arccos (with the new wireless link) - pro's - nice UI interface on the face of it but editing isn't detailed enough. But, I don't want sensors in my grips (swing weight alters, impact acoustics are different), also not accurate from my experience, following chats will support they map courses from Google maps, so my home course was widely inaccurate, as in some tee boxes were 50 yards off.

    Shot Scope v3 - sensor in grip issue again, and my putts were not getting marked for me as I putt left-hand low, and sensor/watch is too far away from each other.

    Skygolf LX5 - given they hand map courses, very accurate (verified by when I laser objects on the course), but the watch build isn't great at all. And the app and website is like 10 years out of date. Plus, their servers are so slow when navigating the website. The SXG500 is really good, but who wants to take the thing out of the holder to the green each time.

    Albeit it, I've only used Garmin S62 for 1 round; it's got potential, a nice app etc, but let me mark putts manually at least.

    Garmin - you can't accurately use the watch for stokes gained without knowing putt distance. It's that simple. It's such a big oversight.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to Garmin-Rob

    Great, happy to try to give as much feedback as needed.

  • No watch or app is going to be perfect. Seems everyone needs to find what works for them.

    I'd toss in the golf app called "Fore - Golf Game Tracking" for Android and Apple.

    https://fore-app.foresightsports.com/home

    I've been using it for about 3-4 years now and 130 rounds. Strokes Gained matches Golfmetrics.

    I like it as creates a breadcrumb trail of my round.

    It auto detects full swings just sitting in my pocket. 

    Once a hole is done, a quick edit of pin position, and my putt locations and i'm off to the next whole. All easy to do and since I walked off my putt lenghts, I know the distance and with the visual map of the green, I can put the hole location in the proper spot. Takes 20 seconds once you get familiar with it.

    I found it the least "labour intensive" way to get good SG data without looking into sensors, etc. I enjoy just using my Garmin watch through the round and not having to look at my phone every shot. This was the best I've found so far.

    Very good dashboard for round review, etc. Almost as good as Arccos. Just like Arccos you can edit post round in the dashboard.

    Garmin. Putt length is king. Without that, the rest is all going to be silly estimates of SG and not accurate. A GPS is 3-6ft accurate. Useless for putt accuracy. Garmin needs to allow edit of putts on the watch (which would be amazing) or at least post round on a good dashboard where we can fine tune distances.

    Sadly, I could list off about a dozen golf apps that do a better and more accurate recording of golf strokes gained than Garmin. Too bad. Great watch, terrible data.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to CFAnPEI

    Cool, will give Fore a try. Got an Apple Watch, so looks promising. Thanks for the heads up.

  • Great watch, terrible data.

    Truer words were never spoken 

  • Garmin - Whats status on the ticket to developers?
    it should really improve the statistics and cant be rocket science to implement.