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Different settings for each club? - Garmin Golf app vs. Awesome Golf app

Rene
over 2 years ago

Hi fellow R10-users,

I am following this gentleman's channel for a while and since he compared the outcome of the measurements from Awesome Golf (AG) with a GC Quad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi42BuUgjdY) using the R10 - I trust that the data he got from Awesome Golf is pretty reliable and the most accurate representation of data from all the apps out there. (and no, I am not sponsored by anyone - just a golf-addict)

I have yesterday been watching the following video from this channel: https://youtu.be/M_tUp4I8ox8

From what it seems, the settings for altitude, humidity and temperature may be different per club if you want to get to the same results as the Awesome Golf app - how is this possible - besides that from the videos, the fade bias still seems to exist in the interpretation of the data by the Garmin Golf app.

What I don't understand (I am not a technical person, just a user of technology) is: how can the raw data provided by the R10 device be interpreted differently by the different apps - they are talking about different algorithms - and that is all good, but what does the raw data of the R10 look like? It measures things like Clubhead speed and ball speed and still the data in the different apps is not consistent. How come that the different apps come with such different results.

I am currently in my trial period for Awesome Golf and I used it yesterday outside on the range: The ball-flight was represented well, the distances were accurate - easy to measure with the physical targets at the range - my R10 device is on a stand - at the hight of the mat and level.

The price point of Awesome Golf is high - not unsurmountable, but high - if you are on a budget it's probably a no-go.

Garmin Golf is a free app that comes with the device and as a consumer you expect the supplier of the device to deliver the best results from the device via the app, if distances and shot shape are off, you quickly start to blame the device not being accurate and that's what most reviews online also say - distances and shot shapes are off. If a 3rd party can interpret the R10's raw data better than the company making the devices you start to wonder if maybe the device is inaccurate, but the 3rd party adjusts the (wrong) raw data to become accurate?

I am just confused. For now I'd like to understand how others experience the new setting in the Garmin app and if the results are realistic across the bag?

Sorry for the long post - I was about to sell the R10 because of the inaccurate data, but by using Awesome Golf I have changed my mind - it would be great if at some point the Garmin app shows reliable data - if that happens I will be a very happy customer.

  • 0 over 2 years ago

    I am also trialing Awesome golf but am hitting into a net. My set up is exact as regarding distance and level and when comparing A.G. with the Garmin Range find Awesome golf to be very close to my normal distances, the Garmin Range is closer on shorter clubs but as the clubs get longer the distances are not accurate.

  • 0 over 2 years ago

    Would love to hear a response from Garmin on this. In the same boat. I find it so interesting that now Garmin even ask for exact distance to device, as to really fine tune it. However awesome golf ask none of this and matches on course numbers better for me. 

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to 5946796

    Awesome Golf use metres in their altitude offset and the Garmin Range uses feet. I alos find that the Garmin Range altitude adjustment does not seem to make much difference over 5000 feet. Sureley Garmin can make this altitude setting comparable to Awesome Golf.

  • 0 over 2 years ago

    Good post.

    To me it's pretty clear that the R10 unit is delivering what it measures.

    And being a radar, the results are pretty accurate for all measurements it actually does.

    However, plaing indoor or into a net, or even on a range, the radar can not, or will not measure the full hall flight, right? The radar can not measure a 250 yards drive when the actual ball flight is 7-8 yards.

    Even outdoor on a range the unit will not measure the whole ball flight, but it will measure it longer, and thus give more data for the handling software to work with. And as such give more accurate results.

    The reason for Awesome Golf giving more accurate results than Garmin Golf app, based on the same input data from the R10 unit, is only because Awesome Golf software devopers are better than Garmins. They probably have more experience in treating these data, have more people (I don't know), maybe even some of them are actually playing golf?

    And because they are better, or putting more work into it, they charge more. So then it is up to us consumers if we are willing to put in the extra money for better results or be happy with what we got for now and wait for Garmin to improve.

    Awesome Golf does not have what Garmin has, the ability to play 40k+ courses for a reasonable annual fee. So for me it's currently not worth it as a senior hobby player. But if You are young and looking to improve Your play, the more accurate results from Awesome Golf may be worth it.

    For now I seriously believe that Garmin software devopers should focus on major issues like crashes, the R10 going constantly to sleep etc.

    And when they have solved that focus on improving the accuracy for short game like indoor or into a net. A quick fix for this I believe would be to allow the user to implement individual compensation for each club. This would also allow us to have fun using practice balls, a feature I believe many would have loved.

    But it is easier to get into Fort Knox than getting any idea on what Garmin devopers are working on, and what we can expect in the future. Unfortunately.

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to odd tore

    Thank for your reply and it makes sense that the radar only measures to a certain distance and the rest is calculated by algorithms, some vendors implement these better than others - but still I wonder why a $5Bn annual revenue company like Garmin cannot get the software right - I am a 5 HCP golfer and I want to get reliable data - the ball flight I can see for myself (I only practice on a range) - but I want the other data to be reliable. I recently tested the R10 next to a Mevo+, both using Awesome golf and the results were pretty much the same (give or take a few yards, and a couple of revs in spin) - I trust the data Awesome Golf provides and leave the Garmin app just to connect to Awesome Golf, since I do not trust the data. I hope one day someone will prove me wrong.

  • 0 over 2 years ago

    Great post, and thanks for sharing your insight on the matter. Did any of you had the opportunity to take E6 or The Golf Club 2019 into the equation? Does it deliver the same accuracy as AG across the bag? I am quite curios.