Lack of Features and Stats in Garmin Golf Compared to Arccos

For 3 years I was an Arccos user. Arccos is very similar to Garmin Golf with the CT10 sensors in theory: every shot is automatically recorded with the GPS location and club used so you can score your round accurately and get pro level detailed stats about your game. But Garmin Golf is worse than Arccos in literally every single way, I am incredibly disappointed with it. It feels like golf is an afterthought of an afterthought, zero development time has been put into the features.

During the round the features on the watch are reasonable, you can get true distance, "plays like" distance, scorecard, etc. However the app on the phone during the round is essentially worthless. You see a top down picture of the hole, but not an actual interactive map to see where you are and all that. I had to install 18birdies to use on my phone at the same time to get the same features as I get during the round as Arccos. There also isn't any sort of virtual caddie, Garmin knows how far I hit my clubs on average, it knows the distance to the hole, the slope, the wind, etc, there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to recommend a club.

All that is not great but I could overlook if the data gathered and stats presented after the round were as good or better than Arccos. However they are significantly worse.

Club Stats:

  • All you get is average and max distances for all rounds, no ability to limit to # of last rounds or last shots
  • No fairways hit, missed, left, right with driver
  • No GIR hit, missed left, right, short, long with every iron and wedge
  • No visual map of where shots went
  • No Strokes Gained stats for clubs

Post-round Stats:

  • All you get is an overhead map of each hole, a scorecard, and basic GIR and fairways hit stats
  • No round average driving distance
  • No strokes gained at all
  • No scoring average by par of holes
  • No way to compare yourself to other handicaps

Course Stats:

  • All you get for course stats is # of rounds, average score, average GIR, average putts per hole, drive accuracy, and longest drive.
  • No strokes gained at all
  • No scoring average by par of holes
  • No average score or stats per hole
  • No handicap by shot type (drive, approach, short game, putting)

Player Stats:

  • Garmin Golf has the "Performance Stats" section which has: # of rounds, average score over last 10 rounds, a very bad graph of Strokes Gained vs similar handicaps, very simple "increasing, decreasing, maintaining" trend images, and some sort of percentile ranking
  • No Stroke Gained numbers and no ability to change who you are comparing yourself to
  • No average scores by par
  • No actual trend lines
  • No stats of averages by hole length
  • No stats of averages by hole shape
  • No stats for approach distances
  • No stats for shot terrain type (fairway, rough, sand)

Not to mention they have a great web app that all of this data can be viewed on, not just a phone app.

The single thing Garmin does better is work with my Garmin Fenix 7x watch that I already have. The watch itself is amazing and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But the Garmin Golf app fails in every category to the point that it is completely worthless. They are years behind in feature development and from what it seems they aren't working on trying to catch up to their competitors at all.

  • I used to subscribe to Arccos and like you have switched to Garmin as I found that it worked great for all my fitness tracking use-cases.

    I think the combo of CT10 and the watch gives the required caddie like functionality - recommended clubs based on your history combined with, wind, elevation etc for virtual caddie.

    Personally I think the above advanced states information as available from Arccos, is perfect use-case for the Garmin Connect+ subscription model. Basic functionality as provided today and those that want the more detailed analytics they subscribe to that as it is valuable insights (for those that want them). Arccos has this as part of a subscription model and it takes compute and developers to make it happen, so I would pay for that on Garmin. 

  • I absolutely love my Fenix 7X, by far the best watch I've ever owned and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I use it for hiking, running, biking, soccer, and golf. The watch portion of Garmin Golf is fine, it give you easy to see distances to the green, adjusts for slope and wind, picks up swings accurately, can measure shot distance, and is easy to use.

    Garmin collects all the same data as Arccos, especially if you have the CT10 sensors on your putter and wedges. My problem is that Garmin does little with that data, at least in comparison to their direct competitor. As for more features being tied into Connect+, I disagree because there is already a Garmin Golf subscription of $100/year. That is half the price of Arccos and also gives you access to Home Tee Hero if you have a Garmin launch monitor (shoutout to the R50, its great but also lacking in a few features).

    Because you get so much for the lower price of Garmin Golf, I think they should have two tiers of subscription. $100/year for Arccos level data display and statistics, and $150 to add HTH and simulator.

    They already have the data stored, it just takes building the front end (and maybe some backend endpoints to get the data they need from the database). With a team of 5-6 good front end software engineers they could get at least half of what Arccos displays in one year for around $1million. If you are making $50 more per year from Garmin Golf subscriptions that would be 2,000 subscribers.