Inconsistency with Active Calories on the Reports section

Haha quality :-)

It looked better at MFP end Friday but still a mismatch between GC and watch, although personally I am only bothered about MFP at this point.

I will continue to run/cycle without disabling tracking all week and report back if things don't make sense! Or otherwise.

Thanks. Kind of makes exercise more bearable if it has a double purpose no?

Frank,

Not good news today.

Just done a run this morning, and the issue persists. It's giving me 177 calories for the 1700 or so steps I did outside the run. That's a lot of calories for 1700 steps, and is of course knocking on to MFP by inflating my calorie adjustment.

These number taken from the calories full page on Garmin Connect just now:

Run - 9:43am, 15,858 steps, 1,296 calories burned in 1:23:41 over 17.75 km. Used HRM. Makes sense.

Daily Steps - 1,683. Calories from those - 177. Distance - 2.99 km. See below.

Total Steps 17,541 Calories 1,473 distance 20.74 km.

This is patent nonsense, as.

1. I haven't walked 2.99km. I have got up, had breakfast, sat at my desk then gone for a run, before coming home stretching and sitting here.

2. When I walk 3km to work most mornings it consistently takes about 4000 steps to do so. I cannot walk 2.99km in less than half that many steps!

3. My 3km walk to work usually gets me around 80-100 extra calories. Where is 177 coming from?

So not fixed. And more worryingly, no logic to the issue as I had previously speculated.

Not good news today.

I cannot make any sense out of this. Perhaps this is your point but the only thing that seems right is the calories you got for your run. I think we have established that the whole calories from walking part of Active Calories is always wrong.

What perplexes me the most is your 1.8 meter walking step size. That whole piece of it is just basic math. Calories are messy steps and distance usually not so much.

I gather that you wrote this about noon your time. Let' presume for the sake of argument that you did take 1,683 steps over and above those recorded as a part of your run. Where you should have been at that point is 850 BMR + 1,296 RUN + 40 daily steps = 2,186 Total Calories. 1,473 indicates to me that there is not a single calorie of BMR in that number. Had you synced today?

What is going on with whole day Total Calories on the watch vs GC?

BTW, I confirmed that by changing your weight in the Settings > Personal Information section of GC Mobile you do change your BMR just as if you clicked that Send to Device link on the web app. So it still does not change automatically as your weight does (as it should) but there is a slightly less primitive method to inform your activity tracker that your weight has changed.

Frank those calories are active calories they do not include BMR. Its the activities tab on the full page version of the Calories in/out widget on GC.

Watch is obviously out of sync with GC when looking at total calories as well.

I wouldn't care if they didn't send the disparity to MFP as extra calories! I'm trying to lose 3kg here before my marathon ;-)

Watch is obviously out of sync with GC when looking at total calories as well.

I still have not heard back from Garmin Support on this and suspect that I will not. In my experience, when you point out a real problem you do not get a reply. These is also some speculation that the problem is already fixed though you clearly believe it not to be.

To me the clearest evidence that something was broken was the mismatch between total calories on the watch and in GC at the end of a 100% completed day. Could you start recording and reporting that? Maybe beginning with going back as far as you watch still has a record of its daily calorie totals and bringing that up to the present. I understand that, on days with no activities they should match. If you want to add other information like type and length of activity calories specifically from the activity, BMI, active calories from everything but the activity that would be interesting too. Be careful where you active calories come from. The only ones I have an confidence in are the ones that are presented in the red shaded portion of Total Calories. They have as much as admitted that Active Calories is messed up.

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Ok...these include 1939 BMI......

Watch:
Friday 3975 kcal ( 1 running activity )
Saturday 2137
Sunday 2300
Monday 3327 ( 1 running activity )
Tuesday 2552 ( 2 cycling activities and 1 gym session activity )

GC:
Friday 4162
Saturday 2137
Sunday 2300
Monday 3571
Tuesday 2721

As expected, disparity when recording activities otherwise not.

Good stuff. Thank you. My PT has sidelined me for the month of March. Hip flexor tendonitis. I'll have extra time to harass Garmin :)