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Bug report: TSS/IF report dash -- not cumulative

SIM-O-LATE
over 10 years ago
This dash appears to be showing the maximum activity TSS for each X-axis unit (e.g. per-day or per-week), rather than showing the sum. Maximum TSS score is not a useful metric, also the wording (or lack of it) on the dash would suggest that it *should* be showing a cumulative figure and therefore I'm raising this as a bug.

Example 1:
TSS/IF dash set to 7 day mode:
* Yesterday I had two activities: one at 50.1 TSS, and the other at 74.6 TSS
* Dash is reporting a TSS of 77 for yesterday in the little bar graph
* I would expect a cumulative TSS for yesterday of 125

Example 2:
TSS/IF dash set to 4 week mode:
* Last week I had a total TSS of 616 over 7 activities
* Dash is reporting a TSS of 253, which is the same as the highest activity for the week
* I would expect a cumulative TSS for last week of 616

Outcome: please show a cumulative TSS instead of the maximum effort for the unit of time, which isn't a very useful metric. Alternatively, provide the option to choose between maximum, average, minimum and sum for all dash types.
  • 0 over 5 years ago

    This is true still for today. Multiple activities on the same day are an average value instead a sum.

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to sscale20

    I reported this to Garmin support last year and ended up in the most pointless, circular discussion with them. 

    They simply don't this is incorrect, but claim it is "by design". They won't correct it and even if they wanted to they claimed they wouldn't be able to because "the calculation is proprietary to PeaksAware and as such we are not able to change it". I asked how they could claim that when I presented screenshots of TrainingPeaks showing the TSS calculated correctly and they stuck to their guns about not being able to change TrainingPeaks calculation... I went round in circles with them for a few weeks before giving up. 

    My impression was that they simply adopt the approach of "if we do not accept we got something wrong then it means we haven't got it wrong" and sometimes that leads to them holding onto idiotic positions.

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to lj50

    Thanks for sharing your experience. Sad to learn this as a the whole concept of reporting on multi-acitivity-training is pointless in Garmin. Guess we will need to turn to TrainingsPeaks for this feature.

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    Probably another reason to move away from Garmin. There are several other options on the market. Sad. Another examples of how engineers don't realize that their stubborn attitudes and lack of customer-centric attitudes lead to lost customers and create problems for their sales and marketing teams. 

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    Probably another reason to move away from Garmin. There are several other options on the market. Sad. Another examples of how engineers don't realize that their stubborn attitudes and lack of customer-centric attitudes lead to lost customers and create problems for their sales and marketing teams.