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EGNOS 'Open Service' available: a new era for European navigation begins today

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from http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM2HGF280G_index_0.html
where it says
<...This is a major milestone for the project: its primary service is now available to all users equipped with EGNOS-compatible receivers. Most mass-market satellite navigation receivers being sold today are ready for EGNOS. .../>

How do we benefit from this with our Nuvi 2XX bought in June 09?
  • That's good news!

    According to Swedish Garmin all Garmin devices (incl Forerunners) have WAAS/EGNOS turned on by default.
    I think one should be looking for locked "satellites" with high numbers , like upper 30, or 40. Anyone who knows exactly?

    I didn't notice any improvements on today's run though.
  • Got excited as well by the news, googled myself to these two excellent explanations:
    http://www.kowoma.de/en/gps/waas_egnos.htm
    http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/dgps.htm
    In short, if you are in Europe and get a Garmin satellite ID of 33, 37 or 44 on the last channel, you're in luck, accuracy should improve. Clear view to the S/SW/SE needed, the 3 EGNOS-satellites are stationary and over the equator, so the further north you are the less probable is an EGNOS signal on the ground. I certainly can't get any, in the south of Finland, with my FR405. What about the rest of you?
  • But... From http://www.kowoma.de/en/gps/waas_egnos.htm :

    "But since most manufacturers recommend switching WAAS/EGNOS off if not within the area where the signals are provided for, it may be assumed that the receivers do not make full use of all information provided and do not check whether the correction should be used or not. That way, the position may be even worse when WAAS/EGNOS is switched on when no proper correction signal is provided."
  • Yes, noticed that, there has also been talk about faster battery drain with WAAS/EGNOS enabled. So from a Scandinavian point of view, I'd rather turn it off, can we get a firmware change for that? I wouldn't mind if Garmin US tech support said something about this, is a possible EGNOS signal really used in the recent Forerunners? There certainly isn't any mention of it in the manuals.

    EGNOS could come in handy canoeing or ice-skating on the Baltic Sea, I suppose, but at the moment it seems to benefit aviation mainly.

    Any users from central/southern Europe care to comment on this?

    The Garmin Connect FAQ is not the best place to discuss this, maybe we should move to a more device-specific forum.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Got excited as well by the news, googled myself to these two excellent explanations:
    http://www.kowoma.de/en/gps/waas_egnos.htm
    http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/dgps.htm
    In short, if you are in Europe and get a Garmin satellite ID of 33, 37 or 44 on the last channel, you're in luck, accuracy should improve. Clear view to the S/SW/SE needed, the 3 EGNOS-satellites are stationary and over the equator, so the further north you are the less probable is an EGNOS signal on the ground. I certainly can't get any, in the south of Finland, with my FR405. What about the rest of you?


    Thanks for distilling that information into something as simple as looking for 33, 37 or 44 on the last channel :) I'll do a test today and see if I'm in luck (Northern England). But already I'm seeing a position accuracy of 23feet having just switched the Edge on in my office without going outside, I'm sure that's better than usual :confused:
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    I went out for a walk with my dog and saw reported accuracy of 11ft, that seems low?