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Mismatch in training plan with Miles versus km in coach Galloways plan

I'm training for a 10km (10 kilometers). 

I wander if it's normal that for a long run, I have to run for 23 kilometers! According to other coaches on the net, the distance for training is overkill!

=> I think there is a mismatch and Garmin considers that I'm training for a 10miles (16,09km) and then I have to train for 23kilometers (which makes sens).

Is there a way to open a defect ?

Regards

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago
    • Same here, training for 10km and he tells me to run 19km. Overkill is the right word. Hoping for help.
  • Same here. Training for half marathon (around 50% of the plan done), and I had to run 25 km (2h45) ...and 27.35 km next week.

    Can't edit the training plan since it's a Garmin plan.

    I can't understand !

  • Same here. Have hit 10 X 800 m speed repeats in the 10 km plan and see from others that this may increase, which does not seem beneficial. Last long run was 9.95 miles with warm-up and cool down, which also seems like over-training for a focus on increased speed and intensity at a 10 km distance. Not sure how to address this issue and frustated by the inability to look ahead in the plan to explore whether the trend of "over-training" will continue. I don't want to injure myself and would also like to understand better how to manage the cross training that I am doing on what are labeled in the plan as four "rest days."

  • Hi,

    I tried to get some help from garmin support, but they are not really willing or able to help (but they always answer, at least)

    After a few exchanges (they kept asking more data that was not really important, maybe hoping I get lazy and stop my request) their final answer is:

    "When first setting up the Coach Training Plan it asks your average distance per week and additional information. You also need to specify what days are best for the long runs. Maybe you inputted information incorrectly making the plan think this is expected of you. 

    Can you try creating a new Plan and then check each week to see if the distance shows similar readings. If it does not, then something was in[putted incorrectly. "

    So, in conclusion, if you do your long runs on sundays, you will run 30 km, and if you do them on saturdays, only 15 km Thinking...or maybe their answer is just bullshit ...

  • As you may know, we cannot create a new plan without "quitting" the current plan. Not a very helpful response. Wish they would do their own beta testing and troubleshooting! Also, we cannot "check each week" beyond the one week ahead, since the plan keeps the workouts a mystery ("stay tuned")!

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago

    Yup same issue with Galloways plan. I'm now almost halfway trough the plan and I now have 17.7k in my training plan for 10k. I also think this looks more like a plan for 10 miles, which is pretty absurd because I have everything set to metric units (also my goal pace for the plan is in min/km). It is pretty poor that they mention units everywhere except for the training distance. In my vocabulary a 10k race just stands for 10 kilometers and at least in my country 10 km is one of the most popular distances whereas 10 miles is extremely uncommon.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago

    Ah, good to know. I thought it was just in my training plan where these weird long runs would pop up. Not that they're originally based on miles, but that for a 10 KM race I have workouts of 17+ KM runs. I believe that already in week 4 I got my first 10+ KM long run.

    So yeah, it looks like a bug in the training program in that it uses miles instead of kilometers. I had just contacted Garmin about this issue, just before finding this post. So let's see if they react.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago

    This is so strange, and no feedback what so ever from garmin on their own forum doesn't help. Same issue here, I went from 12 km to 17km this week and now it says that Tuesday i have to run a light 21km!! What ever happened to the 10% rule?  The schedule for just finishing the 10k is way too simple, I changed to 53 minutes which still shouldn't be too much of a problem but now this?

  • This is so strange, and no feedback what so ever from garmin on their own forum doesn't help.

    This user forum is primarily designed for the mutual help between users. Do not expect Garmin intervening here. For communicating with Garmin and having so their answers, you can use one of the means available at support.garmin.com (in most countries you can use phone, chat, or email).

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago

    Same problem, except I actually use miles instead of km. I'm doing a half marathon plan, and next weekend or wants to do a 19 mile long run--I've already done 17 and 15 mile runs. In one of the coaching videos, Jeff mentioned going up to 14 miles, which makes me think this should hypothetically be the max for the plan, which it's not. My best guess is something is wrong with the algorithm for more experienced runners. I think if you've already got a strong base going into the training plan, it starts you with higher mileage than it typically would and then continues to increase mileage by the same amount that it would for someone staying out with lower miles... The increase would get a runner with a lower starting base to where they need to be but becomes overkill for those starting with larger base miles. This is just my best guess though. It's too bad that this is happening. Very disappointing.