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Running/Secondary HR Zones

P-Hill
over 7 years ago
I've noticed a thing recently where if I have custom HR zones specified on my FR 230, Connect will just push the 'secondary' HR zones to my watch and use those for a workout. For instance, I set Running zones based on %HRR, and the 'secondary' zones based on HRMax. Connect says it will use my running zones for running activities and the secondary zones for other types of training, but when I do a running activity, it just uses my secondary zones. So yesterday I did my run; the 230 showed my HR based on the HRMax zones in the data field (when it should've been %HRR), and then Connect also used my secondary zones for the "Time in Zone" bar graph on the workout.

Is it impossible to have running-specific zones based on %HRR and secondary zones and have them be used and display correctly? The only way to get my watch to use zones based on %HRR seems to be if I delete the running-specific zones and just set my HR zones to be based on %HRR, with no secondary zones. That means any other activity type will also use those zones, which isn't really a problem for me, but since Connect claims it can handle different zones for different activities, I'd like it to actually be able to do it.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    … if I have custom HR zones specified on my FR 230, Connect will just push the 'secondary' HR zones to my watch and use those for a workout.


    What does the legend on the Time in Heart Rate Zones chart in Garmin Connect Mobile tell you?

    … when I do a running activity, it just uses my secondary zones. So yesterday I did my run; the 230 showed my HR based on the HRMax zones in the data field (when it should've been %HRR),


    What specifically are you talking about?

    The HR Zone Gauge data screen is defective, and does not use custom HR zones for the activity type in question even if they have been set up.

    The HR Zone data field works fine in terms of correctly using the custom HR zones set up.

    and then Connect also used my secondary zones for the "Time in Zone" bar graph on the workout.


    Are you talking about the values in the tooltips?



    Is it impossible to have running-specific zones based on %HRR and secondary zones and have them be used and display correctly?


    See above, and the posts to which I've linked.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Thanks for your reply. I actually found the posts you linked before I posted my question, but it seemed like my issue was slightly different because it was about HR zones for different activity types. Anyway, this is how I had my zones entered before my run on Monday:

    What does the legend on the Time in Heart Rate Zones chart in Garmin Connect Mobile tell you?

    The Time in HR Zones chart on Connect Mobile uses the secondary zones on a running activity, even when I have running zones set up.


    What specifically are you talking about?

    The HR Zone Gauge data screen is defective, and does not use custom HR zones for the activity type in question even if they have been set up.

    The HR Zone data field works fine in terms of correctly using the custom HR zones set up.

    I mean that Garmin doesn't seem to be using my running HR zones and instead uses the secondary zones. I do not generally use the HR zone gauge on my watch, but the HR Zone data field was using the wrong zones; during a running activity, it displayed secondary zones rather than my running HR zones.


    Are you talking about the values in the tooltips?

    Yes, that is what I am talking about. After a running activity, those values display zones based on my secondary zones, not my running HR zones.

    I know it is possible to set HR zones for different activity types, but my Garmin (watch, Connect, mobile) all seem to be using only one HR zone specification. It doesn't matter how many times I reset the zones and add running HR zones, if I have running and secondary zones set up, everything only uses secondary, from the watch and data fields, to the mobile app, to the website.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    … my Garmin (watch, Connect, mobile) all seem to be using only one HR zone specification.


    I don't know why that is happening, then. When I wrote the other posts back in January, I was using a FR235 running firmware v5.40, but I can't do any more tests on the watch because it's now associated with my girlfriend's Garmin Connect account and not mine. Perhaps, as an experiment, you can try: set up custom HR zones for Running using %-of-Max (but with Z1=129-142, Z2=143-156, etc.), save and sync, then go for a run and see whether the watch (and the Time in Heart Rate Zones chart in Garmin Connect) will use the custom zones.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    This started happening on my 235 after the latest update

    Starting May 13, after the latest firmware update on my 235, this has happened to me also. Prior to that it functioned as expected. I emailed support; they told me it may be a bad settings file and to delete the folder and resync. I did that, but the problem was still there this morning. I think it is a firmware issue.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    I have the same problem. I was using secondary HR Zones for cycling and running HR Zones for Running and it worked perfect until yesterday.

    But now my watch Forerunner 230 is using the secondary HR Zones for Running. And on Garmin Connect it shows me that my Running Activity HR is based on Runing HR Zones on the one screen (statistics):
    The activity is in average in Zone 1,0.

    And in the same activity the HR is based on my Secondary HR Zones on another screen (Time in Zone):
    Here it is most of the time in Zone 2.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Yes, I think I only noticed it after I updated to the new firmware; I've had the multiple HR zones set for a while, but it seemed to work just fine until recently.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Perhaps, as an experiment, you can try: set up custom HR zones for Running using %-of-Max (but with Z1=129-142, Z2=143-156, etc.), save and sync, then go for a run and see whether the watch (and the Time in Heart Rate Zones chart in Garmin Connect) will use the custom zones.


    Thanks, I'll try this. I suspect it's an issue with the new firmware.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Update: Problem persists. I changed HR zones, got rid of running zones, added them back, etc., and nothing works. If I have running zones set up, my watch and garmin connect do not use them. What's the point of offering them?
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Submit a support ticket

    I already have one submitted, but if more people submit them they may realize sooner that it's not a one-off issue but is related to the firmware update. I did multiple troubleshooting steps for them and I think they've concluded it is firmware but more data points for them to look at will only be more helpful.