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BUG - Heart Rate Zones Training Plans/Calendar, not updatin HR zone added to calender

Former Member
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While using Garmin Connect Calendar/Training Plan/Workout/Heart Rate Zones

I'm using a training plan that Garmin has suggested, for a triathlon. When you plug it into the calendar with a start date, it populates the entire calendar with all the workouts. Extremely useful... EXCEPT... When the individual workouts are plugged into the calendar every single workout uses the value for the baseline heart rate zone numbers. The individual workouts should update to match my personal heart rate zones.

It's definitely a bug. If the workout says to use heart rate zone 1 it will not list my personal heart rate numbers, but use the stock heart rate numbers. If I edit the workout and change the listed heart rate zone from 1 to 2 then back to 1 again and save it, it will then update to the correct values for my personal heart rate zone, but only for that specific leg/lap/zone. You don't actually have to type in the numbers. So it knows to fill in the correct value, but it doesn't do it automatically. For multiple legs in the workout, even if they are in the same heart rate zone, you still need to change the zone to another one, then back again for the correct numbers to update.

It's unfortunate, because this training plan has 19 or so workouts per month, with multiple legs per workout. That's a lot of work to change the heart rate zone of every single leg of every single workout back and forth each time.

Hopefully that's explanatory enough and not confusing.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    I have noticed the same.
    Using the FR235, I still sent the training to the device with the wrong HR zones. During the workout, the FR235 uses the correct zones, but afterwards when reviewing the time spent at the various HR zones in Garmin Connect (mobile), it uses the wrong numbers again and thus gives absolutely wrong figures.

    I hope Garmin will fix this.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    Same here

    I'm having the same issue here. I ended up switching plans because it was annoying to have my fenix 2 vibrating at me for a hour because I forgot to edit the zones for that workout.
  • and me...

    I started a half training plan yesterday and was confused why I was always over so much. Glad there is a way to update it even if it needs manual intervention.

    Has anyone reported this to Garmin?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    ...can second that

    Can we get some official feedback on that?
    As it is not convenient, to manually edited 60 activities in one plan...
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    It works for me when i use %hrr.
    My zones are the same as the plan - as in if the plan perscribes zone 4 with a heartbeat range i have custom zone 4 matching the plans zone 4. However my zones have different cuttoff points from the stock ones

    Im using a fenix3 hr if thats of any value.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    Hi, any update to this at all from Garmin?

    I've just scheduled in a Half Marathon heart rate training plan and I experienced the same as others. When I schedule the plan the Heart Rate Zones are based on a number which are not mine. I have to go and manually change each zone on the plan. Extremely time consuming.

    To see if it was only related to my profile I did my girl's and that came up with the same numbers as mine did...i.e. not her heart rate figures so now I have to manually edit hers too. This shows it's an issue with Garmin Connect and not my profile.

    We both use a Forerunner 620.

    Thanks
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    i have contacted garmin 12 days ago but got their usual useless standard reply and havent heard more back from them since but just tryed to push them again for an answer
  • Using the FR235, I still sent the training to the device with the wrong HR zones. During the workout, the FR235 uses the correct zones,


    In view of the long-standing confusion expressed in this thread (and, for a long time, I took everything written here at face value), this morning I finally sat myself down and did a bit of experimentation around this issue, inspired and encouraged by what Quang90 has written above.

    Firstly, I changed the heart rate zones in my Garmin Connect account for my FR235 to something I can more easily test without going out for a proper run:



    I then scheduled the Level‑1 10K HR training plan (commencing 18/12/2016, so that today would be W03D4, with intervals training that involves both Z2 and Z4), and pushed the workouts to my FR235 without editing them.



    I note that the HR zone thresholds shown are apparently for MaxHR of 185‑bpm and using the ‘default’ of 60% of MaxHR as the threshold for Z2, 70% MaxHR for Z3, 80% MaxHR for Z4, and 90% MaxHR for Z5.

    I then performed the workout, and can confirm that Z2 was 60-69‑bpm and Z4 was 80-89‑bpm as far as my FR235 was concerned, based on the alerts as well as the “In desired zone” notifications I got.

    but afterwards when reviewing the time spent at the various HR zones in Garmin Connect (mobile), it uses the wrong numbers again and thus gives absolutely wrong figures.


    On review of the Time in Heart Rate Zones chart in the activity record, both on the FR235 (under History) and in the Garmin Connect Mobile app after I completed the workout and uploaded the activity record, it appears the correct HR zones were also used, notwithstanding what the pop-up in the calendar in Garmin Connect online still says.

  • I then added a set of Running-specific HR zones in my Garmin Connect account:


    and synced them to my FR235, then performed the W03D4-Intervals workout again. I can now confirm that the new Running HR zone thresholds were used by my watch during the second workout. The Time in Heart Rate Zones chart for the resulting activity record also shows the correct thresholds for the HR zones:



    One defect I'll note is that the HR Zone Gauge data screen on my FR235 will not use the Running-specific HR zones, and that just adds to the confusion, because the execution of the workout uses the correct HR zones. I could also see the discrepancy when comparing what is shown in the HR Zone data field on the Heart Rate data screen; when my HR was 65‑bpm during the second workout, the HR Zone Gauge data screen told me I was in the Easy zone (i.e. Z2), but the HR Zone data field reported a value of 0.9.

    When I schedule the plan the Heart Rate Zones are based on a number which are not mine. I have to go and manually change each zone on the plan. Extremely time consuming.

    To see if it was only related to my profile I did my girl's and that came up with the same numbers as mine did...i.e. not her heart rate figures so now I have to manually edit hers too. This shows it's an issue with Garmin Connect and not my profile.
    My conclusion now is that you don't need to edit the workouts at all to get the right HR zones, as long as you accept (and can deal with the cognitive dissonance) that what the pop-up in the calendar shows does not really apply when performing the workout.

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    Come to think of it, given that HR Zones are device settings in Garmin Connect (and, while I don't have two Forerunner or fēnix watches to test, I'll assume it's possible to have different HR zones set up on different devices registered to a single Garmin Connect account), but a training plan is not tied to a particular device, especially when it is being scheduled on the training calendar in Garmin Connect online before being sent to a registered device, I just cannot see how the user could logically expect the calendar to show the applicable HR zone thresholds in absolute values of bpm. (Obviously I'd erroneously expected it myself until today, so I'm not dissing anyone and being holier-than-thou here.)
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    Proplan blvd

    Thanks for your answer ASmugDill.

    I'll experiment today. I'll upload the 'as is' zones to my 620 and I'll upload the edited to my girl's (she'll do my nut in if it beeps at her constantly) and we'll go for a run. I'll then see when it beeps at me and do some analysis when I get back. Unfortunately, Garmin in their wisdom don't give us 620 users the heart rate zone chart in Connect so a bit of it will have to be done by eye and Strava.