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Minutes intensive training with tacx training app

Mocro Power
over 2 years ago

Hello, I recently started training with tacx using the tacx training app. When I have completed a training, I see the training in the Garmin Connect app. However, the tacx training is not regarded as intensive minutes. I've been waiting for it for two weeks now. The number of intensive minutes of training is not corrected. What goes wrong here? I have a goal per week and I would like to keep track of it. You'd expect both to be Garmin's apps that the data would stay the same. Does anyone recognize this problem or know a solution? Thank you in advance!

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  • 0 over 1 year ago

    Hi, I’ve just started using Tacx and I have the same issue. Did you find a solution?

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    Hello,

    same issue here,

    looking for updates

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    I have the same issue and found the solution (rather a workaround) in other threads.

    I'm using Tacx Training App for Windows, Neo 2T trainer and HRM-Dual for the indoor trainings. Also use Edge 1040 just for backup in case the ride didn't get recorded to Garmin Connect from Tacx app. If it does, I discard the ride in Edge. However neither of these records the Intensity Minutes.

    The workaround is to record the ride on a Garmin watch as well (I have only the HRM paired with the watch, not the Neo 2T). After finishing, I discard the activity on the watch. However it causes the activity (recorded with Tacx Training App) in Garmin Connect to contain also Intensity Minutes. Without this the IMs are missing.

    It's hard to understand why such a cumbersome workaround is needed. One would expect that the entire Garmin ecosystem would calculate this metrics.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to natom_cz
    natom_cz said:
    It's hard to understand why such a cumbersome workaround is needed

    It is not that difficult. You just need a Garmin device capable of processing the Intensity Minutes. It is explained in great details here: How Are Intensity Minutes Earned? | Garmin Customer Support

    Since you use Edge 1040, which (unlike older Edge models) does support Intensity Minutes, you can get them accounted for, with it. All you need to do is connecting the HRM strap to it, and either remove the watch, or disable the internal HR sensor on it. If you don't, then the watch (the Primary Wearable Device) takes the priority over your Edge, and will process the IM instead of it.

    And if no activity is started on the watch, it records the HR in low power mode (sampling rate 15s, recording rate 2 min), and just using the wrist HR sensor, which means that the number of IMs will be probably quite low. As you found out yourself, it records better only if you start an activity on the watch too. In your case, since you use Edge 1040, it is not necessary though - as I wrote, simply remove the watch from the wrist, and connect the HRM to Edge while recording the Tacx ride with it.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to trux
    trux said:
    simply remove the watch from the wrist, and connect the HRM to Edge while recording the Tacx ride with it

    I have the HRM paired with Edge 1040, Tacx Training App (for Windows) and the watch (Epix Pro 51mm).

    I save the ride from Tacx app - this way the map and ride description get saved.

    If I saved the ride from Edge, some additional data gets saved (like gears used from the paired shifters). However, some metrics' values differ and the ride would be saved twice. If I discard the ride from Edge, the Intensity Minutes don't get counted for the ride.

    When I track the ride (only the HR from the HRM) using the watch (lying on the desk) and discard the ride at the end, the IMs then get counted for the ride saved from Tacx. 

    It's puzzling to me, why IMs get produced only by the watch and not by Edge when I discard the ride on both of them. It might be related to Primary Training Device / Primary Wearable Device settings (both set to the watch in my case).

    It would be most convenient if Tacx Training App itself produced the IMs, as it has the HR data available for the ride and the metrics methodology is quite simple.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to trux

    btw: it was your post in another thread that made me aware of the workaround using the watch calculating IMs even when the ride gets discarded in the watch. Thanks for that! 

    forums.garmin.com/.../1559647

  • +1 over 1 year ago in reply to natom_cz 
    Exactly, it was suggested in another post. Good thing you found the (interim) solution. I have been cycling on the Tacx for a year now. Every time I start a ride with both the Tacx app and the watch and only save the ride in the Tacx app. I don't understand why Garmin doesn't fix this problem. It's not ideal but at least we have the IMs. By the way, I'm not wearing my watch, but it's a moment to hang on the charging cable :)
  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to natom_cz
    natom_cz said:
    It's puzzling to me, why IMs get produced only by the watch and not by Edge when I discard the ride on both of them.

    I wrote it - if you wear Epix, IMs come from it (Primary Wearable Device). If you do not wear it, and record an activity on Edge 1040, IMs come from the Edge.

    Note for others: it works in this way only with Edge models calculating IMS - currently Edge 540, 840, 1040, and Edge Explore 2. Older models don't have the capability.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to trux
    trux said:
    If you do not wear it, and record an activity on Edge 1040, IMs come from the Edge.

    When I left the watch on the desk and only used Tacx Training App and Edge 1040... after checking that the Tacx app saved the ride, I discarded the activity on Edge. In this case IMs do not get counted.

    It's not clear to me why IMs are not produced the same way from Edge as they are from the watch after discarding the activity on each of them. I might try setting the Edge as Primary Training device. 

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to natom_cz
    natom_cz said:
    When I left the watch on the desk and only used Tacx Training App and Edge 1040... after checking that the Tacx app saved the ride, I discarded the activity on Edge. In this case IMs do not get counted.

    Unfortunately, I do not have a current Edge computer, so cannot test it, but according to the documentation, the IMs should be counted with Edge 1040. Normally, the saving or discarding the activity should play no role (at least it is so, on watches), but try saving the activity on Edge, instead of discarding, and then deleting it once synced, in Garmin Connect. If IMs still do not get counted by the Edge, I recommend contacting the Support and have them investigate it.

    natom_cz said:
    It would be most convenient if Tacx Training App itself produced the IMs, as it has the HR data available for the ride and the metrics methodology is quite simple.

    Yes, I agree, and advise to request this feature at Share Ideas | Garmin - if there are numerous requests, Garmin may perhaps do it.