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HRV, HRM and Training status

Jlp
over 1 year ago

I have used the Garmin App for years and it is now a complete mess.

When I exercise a lot the HRV status is going down and I have been shown that my HRV status is on the red and close to zero. What a joke.

at the same time my Training readiness is going down after an excercise and I am not ready for training. Inspite of this I am going out on new workouts and I feel excellent.
I have trained and excercised for 51 years and I know exactly how my body reacts and what I can do.

the data that is shown is just a complete joke about my training level.

At the same time my VO2 max was at 43-55 some 2-3 years ago. Now it is just declining. I am now severely unfit and have only 38 on the training readiness and it does not matter if I do double workouts in bodypump(or similar hard cardio) and spinning several days in a row or if I cycle 150 km without any issues. The training readiness is just staying or going down.

Over the past days I have had several sessions where I have trained on or above my FTP level in cycling but nothing moves whatsoever. Some 2-3 years ago things were moving up and down. Then it could give you a sense if you were on the right tack but according to the app and watches I seem to be close to obesely fat and clearly unfit despite my ability to move things for hours.


What is the purpose of having all these numbers when they clearly are not making any sense?


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  • over 1 year ago in reply to Jlp +1
    Jlp said:
    My bike is a running metering gadget with power pedals and all you can wish on it.

    In that case there is either a problem with your set up. or your VO₂max really dropped. I cannot tell which is…

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  • 0 over 1 year ago
    Jlp said:
    When I exercise a lot the HRV status is going down

    That's exactly what the HRV is supposed to do when the body is under increased stress (regardless whether training stress, or stress caused by other factors).

    Jlp said:
    At the same time my VO2 max was at 43-55 some 2-3 years ago. Now it is just declining. I am now severely unfit and have only 38 on the training readiness and it does not matter if I do double workouts in bodypump(or similar hard cardio) and spinning several days in a row or if I cycle 150 km without any issues.

    You need to make some harder runs or cycling using a powermeter to get a reliable VO₂max value. Preferably with a HRM strap. Bodypump, spinning, strength, cardio, etc. will not give you any reliable VO₂max values, since the estimate is then based on the all-day HR records, with no reference to power or pace, and often even without respiratory rate (helping to detect the Lactate Threshold), hence the VO₂max from this type of activities is not of a great value, indeed.

    Jlp said:
    What is the purpose of having all these numbers when they clearly are not making any sens

    For me it works all right, but even if it does not work well for you, and you think the numbers make no sense, you can still see the tendencies, which are more important than the absolute values. 

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to trux

    I use both power meters and hrm strap every workout. 

    My bike is a running metering gadget with power pedals and all you can wish on it. 

    The impression I get is that the garmin is far from accurate. 

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to Jlp
    Jlp said:
    My bike is a running metering gadget with power pedals and all you can wish on it.

    In that case there is either a problem with your set up. or your VO₂max really dropped. I cannot tell which is the case, without seeing at least some data. If you share a link to one of your later activities that triggered the low VO₂max value, and some screenshots of the VO₂max reports, then perhaps it may be possible to see where is the root of the problem.