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Sleep tracker - using mobile counts as sleep?

I got a feeling that if I´m still in my bed and using my mobile (facebook, youtube and so) , my watch doesn´t understand that I´m awake and count the time as sleeping ? (Garmin Fenix 5 - Android). 

  • Yes! Me, too! I've been sitting in bed for nearly an hour reading news & email & social media. Finally checked my Connect app, and I'd been in REM that whole time??? What the heck? Hey, at least I gotHeavy check mark my Heavy check mark! ️

  • How can the watch measure that you are using the mobile? If you are still enough and with no elevated heart rate it thinks that you are at rest. If it is during your normal sleeping hours it will eventually recognize that as sleeping.

    My tip is to get the mobile and computer out of the bedroom.

  • If I'm still enough during awake hours, it can tell the difference.  It doesn't just assume I must have gone to sleep.  Your breathing is different when you're awake, even if it's just when you woke up and you're still mostly still.  My husband's FitBit could definitely figure out when he woke up and was just playing on the phone in the morning vs being asleep, and he never even sits up to use his phone.  And even if I got the screen out of the bedroom - I'd read in the morning.  It's how I wake up.  I have a sneaking suspicion that even if I picked up a book instead of the screen, it would still think I was in REM or light sleep.

    It's just something Garmin needs to work on/fix.

  • I've noticed that the difference between sleeping and awake is movements. When the movements are low for a period of time the watch consider you to be sleeping and when I start to move around and get high movements I'm considered to be awake.

    In my movement patterns it is very obvious. When I check other nights it is the exact same behaviour.

    I don't think that the watch can log the correct sleep phases and tonight it didn't log any deep sleep which odd since that is the sleep you will always get because it is prioritized by the body and I got no sleeping disorders or anything that would affect my sleeping.

    Breathing is measured by HRV and the difference between awake and sleep is very small at least for me. My values are: 15 brpm Sleep Avg, 14 brpm Awake Avg so there isn't really any difference and if I check historically they are the same about two days per week so that can't be used to determine if I'm awake or asleep.

  • The sleep tracker is appalling. Hugely inaccurate. It can’t detect lying still as being awake where as Fitbit is excellent. So I wear my Garmin Lily Sport in the day and my old Fitbit at night.