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Late audio prompt

When I do a workout for example 8 min run with 3 min walk, after I finish my first 8 min run, it will say lap 1 8 min run. After I finish the 3 min walk, it will say lap 2 3min walk.

Which doesn't make sense. Shouldn't it say those prompts before I begin the lap not after? Or am I missing something?
  • Or am I missing something?
    It makes perfect sense operationally and is entirely consistent. What you've described is exactly how the Garmin Connect Mobile app is known (and expected) to behave monitoring and reporting on a tracked activity, even if one could argue that it is less useful than providing preemptive guidance when the watch is administering a custom workout. I doubt the app even knows that the currently tracked activity is being “performed” as a custom workout.
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    It makes perfect sense operationally and is entirely consistent. What you've described is exactly how the Garmin Connect Mobile app is known (and expected) to behave monitoring and reporting on a tracked activity, even if one could argue that it is less useful than providing preemptive guidance when the watch is administering a custom workout.


    It actually does not make any sense. What's the use of saying "lap 1 8mins run" if it has already been done?

    I doubt the app even knows that the currently tracked activity is being “performed” as a custom workout.


    I sync through the app. Meaning the workout data came from the app. How can it not know? As an IT guy, this does not make sense to me.

    When selecting a workout on the watch, the watch then sends the workout id to the app then telling the app that if this guy presses start follow this workout. I'm sure Devs at Garmin knows this. Not sure though why audio prompts is behaving like this.
  • How can it not know? As an IT guy, this does not make sense to me.
    Then, from one IT guy to another, I'd say it's time you recalibrated your understanding (and not just perceived ideas) of how things work.

    When selecting a workout on the watch, the watch then sends the workout id to the app then telling the app that if this guy presses start follow this workout.
    No, it doesn't. Sorry, but are you monitoring the data traffic over Bluetooth between the watch and the app? The watch administers the custom workout and provides guidance, in accordance with the pre-programmed workout steps. The audio prompts in the Garmin Connect Mobile app are only designed to provide certain types of alerts that are not associated with custom workouts, and lap summary information which obviously only become available when a lap (or workout step, only because that's how they're recorded by the watch in tracked activities that follow a custom workout) has been completed.

    Not sure though why audio prompts is behaving like this.
    Metaphorically, custom workouts are sheet music, but your actual performance of any rendition is up to you. The tracked activity (as a complex data record) and the Garmin Connect Mobile app are only concerned about what you did, not why you did it (i.e. whether you were following a custom workout or not). A custom workout does not get converted or cloned to a tracked activity; the tracker aspect of the watch merely records what you actually did while tracking is in progress, and the app only generates audio prompts in response to what the tracker tells it.

    Don't presume to know what's “standard” or what's “right”. You have your preferences as a user, but it doesn't automatically follow that they dictate how a system is designed to function. As an IT guy, you should know that.
  • Then, from one IT guy to another, I'd say it's time you recalibrated your understanding (and not just perceived ideas) of how things work.

    No, it doesn't. Sorry, but are you monitoring the data traffic over Bluetooth between the watch and the app? The watch administers the custom workout and provides guidance, in accordance with the pre-programmed workout steps. The audio prompts in the Garmin Connect Mobile app are only designed to provide certain types of alerts that are not associated with custom workouts, and lap summary information which obviously only become available when a lap (or workout step, only because that's how they're recorded by the watch in tracked activities that follow a custom workout) has been completed.

    Metaphorically, custom workouts are sheet music, but your actual performance of any rendition is up to you. The tracked activity (as a complex data record) and the Garmin Connect Mobile app are only concerned about what you did, not why you did it (i.e. whether you were following a custom workout or not). A custom workout does not get converted or cloned to a tracked activity; the tracker aspect of the watch merely records what you actually did while tracking is in progress, and the app only generates audio prompts in response to what the tracker tells it.

    Don't presume to know what's “standard” or what's “right”. You have your preferences as a user, but it doesn't automatically follow that they dictate how a system is designed to function. As an IT guy, you should know that.


    Ok so what's the use of saying "lap 1 8mins run" if it has already been done?
  • That's no different from the lap summary information you get on the watch when not “doing” a custom workout. It's a review of (some of) the user's performance metrics for that lap, based on actual (‘historical’) fact. It tells the user how he/she did, and not what he/she ought to do next (with or without a particular goal or objective in mind).

    If the information is of no particular use to you, you can always disable the audio prompts and not be intruded upon aurally. Again, from one IT guy to another, I'd say you would reasonably expect not to be in a position to dictate how something works or repurpose a particular feature, if and when you're not the programmer of that device or system.
  • That's no different from the lap summary information you get on the watch when not “doing” a custom workout. It's a review of (some of) the user's performance metrics for that lap, based on actual (‘historical’) fact. It tells the user how he/she did, and not what he/she ought to do next (with or without a particular goal or objective in mind). If the information is of no particular use to you, you can always disable the audio prompts and not be intruded upon aurally.


    Still it is useless to anybody. And for it to be useful, my suggestion is to simply put it in the interval/lap start and not in the end. I do not want to disable audio prompts because I'd like to hear my interval/lap summary. I even created another thread for a feature request on audio prompts if I go over or under the pace range specified in the interval.

    Audio prompts are great. It just needs to be fine tuned.

    Again, from one IT guy to another, I'd say you would reasonably expect not to be in a position to dictate how something works or repurpose a particular feature, if and when you're not the programmer of that device or system.




    As you can see, I have quite a number of Garmin devices. This does not include the Garmin GPS watches I gave as a gift (2 last December) through the years and many people I've influenced to buy Garmin products. As I see it, as a loyal customer I am very much in the position to influence (not dictate) how a feature should work. Good companies listen to their customers and I believe that is the purpose of this forum. If you are part of the Garmin please let me know, so I can start evaluating other brands.

    Regardless if you are part of Garmin or not, from one IT guy to another, you need to calibrate your understanding of what customers are. Without them, you are nothing.
  • Still it is useless to anybody. And for it to be useful, my suggestion is to simply put it in the interval/lap start and not in the end. I do not want to disable audio prompts because I'd like to hear my interval/lap summary.
    Am I misunderstanding you here? Are the audio prompts you're hearing (and complaining about) interval/lap summaries or not, when you're doing a custom workout?

    As I see it, as a loyal customer I am very much in the position to influence (not dictate) how a feature should work.
    Uh-huh. Good luck with that.