Map Updates and Space

Hi,

I am new to the Montana 700i so please bear with me. I think I updated the City Navigator map in the last few weeks and now my device seems to have hardly any space left on it. Garmin Express now says there is an update for the TopoActive Europe and when I try to install, I get the 'There was an error installing the update.' When I review the logs, it seems there is not enough space to install the update although it suggests the updated map requires significantly more space than the old one:

Not enough space for UniversalMapUpdateOperation transfer. Needed: 905115096, Available : 352616448, Reserved : 0

So my question, am I supposed to remove a map before I update it? Should I have removed the CN map before updating and should I now remove the TA Europe map too? Obviously what I don't want is to lose those maps altogether.

Thank you in advance,

Chris.

  • Did you use Express to update the CN map? If so it should have deleted the old one but it's difficult to advise based on what you say. Are you able to list what is in the Garmin folder on your Montana?

  • Hi, Thank you for your reply. I'm not sure what's going on now. I have CN 2021.20 and TopoActive Europe 2021.10 and apparently both maps are up to date. Is there any way of finding out what the latest versions of maps are supposed to be? I tried to move the TopoActive map to the SD card using Garmin Express but despite trying three times, it kept failing with no meaningful error message.

    Below is an output of the Garmin directory.

    06/02/2020 21:06 <DIR> .
    06/02/2020 21:06 <DIR> ..
    06/02/2020 21:06 14 fs_image.ver
    01/01/1980 00:00 <DIR> RemoteSW
    12/09/2007 09:03 25,214 Garmintriangletm.ico
    24/04/2021 20:07 590,336 gmaptz.img
    01/01/1980 00:00 <DIR> Vehicle
    01/01/1980 00:00 <DIR> ExtData
    01/01/1980 00:00 <DIR> Animations
    01/01/1980 00:00 <DIR> Apps
    10/04/2021 18:22 <DIR> MAPTHEMES
    01/01/1980 00:00 <DIR> Voice
    08/05/2021 11:13 289 Device.fit
    15/04/2021 07:37 <DIR> Weather
    18/04/2021 00:05 <DIR> RINEX
    14/04/2021 17:24 <DIR> NewFiles
    01/01/1980 00:00 <DIR> Text
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> SQL
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> Debug
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> EDM
    01/01/1601 01:00 341 startup.txt
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> Settings
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> Sports
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> Activities
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> PointCache
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> CustomMaps
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> CustomSymbols
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> CIQDevData
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> GPX
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> GGZ
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> Filters
    01/01/1601 01:00 <DIR> Profiles
    13/11/2020 11:04 6,652 manifest.txt
    17/11/2020 02:41 2,600 0974536866.gma
    18/04/2021 09:20 288 geocache_visits.txt
    10/04/2021 16:31 <DIR> GPS
    10/04/2021 17:13 <DIR> WIFI
    08/05/2021 11:13 33,757 GarminDevice.xml
    10/04/2021 21:25 <DIR> BirdsEye
    18/04/2021 09:20 478 geocache_logs.xml
    01/05/2021 14:55 2,865,102,848 D0323410A.img
    01/05/2021 15:06 3,210,215,424 D8940000A.img
    01/05/2021 15:06 2,600 D0323410A.gma
    07/05/2021 19:11 48,775,168 gmapbmap.img
    07/05/2021 19:15 1,149,730,816 gmapdem.img
    07/05/2021 19:27 3,588,882,432 D6185100A.img
    16 File(s) 10,863,369,257 bytes
    30 Dir(s) 3,540,021,248 bytes free

  • Not sure from that list but you appear to have 2 maps installed on 1 May, is your CN map the Europe one? That map is split into 2 as per the 2 large .img files listed. You also have another map installed on 7 May, that is almost certainly the TopoActive map you previously had issues installing. This can be confirmed by running JaVaWa's device Manager program

    www.javawa.nl/jdm_en.html

  • Thank you. That website looks very promising with a lot of useful information and links. I will have a play and see what happens.

    I noticed you posted many times on this forum, helping people. Thank you for your time and sharing your knowledge.

    All the best.

  • Everything looks normal using JaVaWa. The two CN maps are two different regions of Europe but there is some overlap. I think to free some space in future if I need to, I can change the map region in Garmin Express.

    The option to update the Topo map no longer presents itself so I'm not sure why that appeared and now it doesn't. I'm on version 2021.10 which I understand is the latest version.

    Thank you for your help.