BaseCamp Profiles do nothing 'Hiking, MTB, Walking, Off road etc all routed to road

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I have just bought a Montana 650 with V5pro Spain TOPO maps. The profile function is doing nothing (and when you select a different profile, there is also suspiciously no delay for processing the new route according to the alleged profile type, so it proves it is doing nothing). In basecamp no matter which profile I choose (even hiking), it always routes me along roads, even though I deselected roads, on the edit of the off road profile and left just unpaved (again this does nothing).

I also tried to create a track from the route and then created a 'direct route' from the selected track (as suggested by Garmin). No matter what, it still puts me on roads.

The attachments are just an example, it will never route me anywhere but a road. In the example, on the google image it shows a very popular off road track that runs left to a main road (the a-92). See the Garmin image, it puts me on the a-92 ignoring the perfect off road track to the left.:mad:





BTW I have made sure the map detail of the TOPO map is set to 'highest' in the drop down.
  • You're under a common, and understandable, misunderstanding. Basecamp can only route you along specific roads/trails etc if those roads/trails are marked as routeable in the map you're using. So any problems you're seeing are as a result of the map and not Basecamp.
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    Thanks for the reply. It's a Garmin TOPO MAP, advertised specifically for trekking, cost £100, so is it being said that the Garmin Montana 650 with V5pro TOPO Spain maps cannot be used to plan a trekking route?
  • Yes you can plan, I do it all the time with topo maps but using the Direct Activity profile. Very few maps will route along the paths I want to take. I don't know about your map in detail but looking at Garmin's website it says it:

    •Features ActiveRouting¹ with:
    • Activity specific outdoor routing (customized and activity-specific route planning)
    •Named trail routing (routing along a specific trail)
    •Activity-specific map display
    •Offers optimized map layout for better readability

    I've not used a map with active routing before, but this explains it better than I can http://pinns.co.uk/osm/activerouting.html. As you'll see it only routes along certain trails. You may find free OSM maps work better for you http://www.openfietsmap.nl/downloads/europe
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    Not sure what this means exactly (maps are autoroutable or not?).

    • Shows routing on the entire enclosed road and path system, NAVTEQ's routable road network as well as detailed recreational network information (hiking, cycling, mountain biking)
    • Displays marked and named hiking and cycling trails (e.g. Vias Verdes, Caminos de Santiago, GR, GRT, PR, SL)


    TOPO España v5 PRO
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    Yes you can plan, I do it all the time with topo maps but using the Direct Activity profile. Very few maps will route along the paths I want to take. I don't know about your map in detail but looking at Garmin's website it says it:

    •Features ActiveRouting¹ with:
    • Activity specific outdoor routing (customized and activity-specific route planning)
    •Named trail routing (routing along a specific trail)
    •Activity-specific map display
    •Offers optimized map layout for better readability

    I've not used a map with active routing before, but this explains it better than I can http://pinns.co.uk/osm/activerouting.html. As you'll see it only routes along certain trails. You may find free OSM maps work better for you http://www.openfietsmap.nl/downloads/europe


    But I used the 'direct' route, I changed my route into a track and then changed the track to direct, all that does is run a route parallel to the roads, and it goes straight through houses and walls, it's ludicrous. None of the claims of the Montana 650 can be met if I cannot plan an off road route using the TOPO map, surely this is against the trades descriptions act?
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    Well TOPO U.S. 100K maps don't contain any autorouting data--all routes must be point-to-point (direct). Other TOPO's do contain routing data. As for yours I don't know (the wording is ambiguous to me).
  • Where does it not meet the trades description act? What claims are you referring to?

    For direct routing you need to place the points as you want them, Basecamp and the map won't do it automatically for you. In any case (and I use maps that will route along certain paths/tracks) all you get if you choose to do so is a route that may not match the one you want to hike.
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    Not sure what this means exactly (maps are autoroutable or not?).


    TOPO España v5 PRO


    Thanks for the reply. Yes you can use pre-prepared routes that people have sent in, but I need to create my own off road route and according to Garmin this is possible by selecting the appropriate profile, but according to the moderator now it's being suggested that the map I have doesn't have any programmable off road routes? then why do they sell it? I may as well have bought a paper map.
  • Well I didn't say it didn't have any programmable routes, but possibly not where you'd like to go. I don't know enough about that map to say what it can/can't do.
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    Where does it not meet the trades description act? What claims are you referring to?

    For direct routing you need to place the points as you want them, Basecamp and the map won't do it automatically for you. In any case (and I use maps that will route along certain paths/tracks) all you get if you choose to do so is a route that may not match the one you want to hike.

    It doesn't meet it anywhere. It is touted as being able to plan routes for all types of activity just by changing profile. One loop I am trying is 50km, so if I have to pin it all the way myself then A/ I will go blind and B/ Lose my mind and C/ why would I need a garmin if I have to do it myself? why not just a paper map?