Basecamp to GPS to Google Earth question

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Hi,

After bringing in my most recent tracks to Basecamp, I edit and clean them up. Then I want to send them back to my GPS. Somewhere in the mix, I get a little turned around and end up with things still on my GPS that I don't want there. As a pseudo-fix, I try to delete everything off the GPS and then upload everything from "My Collection" (which is only one GPS right now) back onto the GPS. I delete everything off the GPS by going in through "My Computer" and emptying the GPX folder (including "current" folder within).

I also empty "Internal Storage" in basecamp so that all I have remaining is "My Collection" and then I send it over. I managed to get that to work. But when I now go to Google Earth and import Garmin data, it tells me "loaded no data".

Why?

Is the info stored in the GPS in more than one place and Google Earth is looking in "the other one" and not finding it? I can't figure out why the info is IN the GPS but Google Earth now can't find it.

Thanks in advance
SF
  • I'm confused? How are you trying to get Google Earth to 'find' data in your nuvi? If you want GE to read the .gpx file in the GPX folder simply drag the .gpx file into GE. If you're trying to do it from within Basecamp the data needs to be visible in the lower left hand pane and selected, then you can use BC's toolbar and do a View, Google Earth, Selected Items ...
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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago
    I'm confused? How are you trying to get Google Earth to 'find' data in your nuvi? If you want GE to read the .gpx file in the GPX folder simply drag the .gpx file into GE. If you're trying to do it from within Basecamp the data needs to be visible in the lower left hand pane and selected, then you can use BC's toolbar and do a View, Google Earth, Selected Items ...
    Sorry, my bad, I failed to mention it was my 62stc. Does that clear things up any? I'm sure you know the "Tools>GPS" option on Google Earth.

    Basically I was squeezing together TWO separate problems.

    The first is my inability to get my Garmin 62stc COMPLETELY CLEAR so that I can re-upload everything all nice and neat and cleaned up after a new trek.
    The second is... having tried what I thought was a solution, I am not unable to import the data sent to my gps in that manner into Google Earth.

    Did I make it any clearer? Thank you again for trying to help.

    SF
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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago
    As far as I know with the 62stc you can only delete the data on the device from the device menus. You can't delete any internal data via Basecamp. In addition, you should delete the /GPX/temp.gpx file on the device to avoid previously transferred data from being re-imported.
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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago
    As far as I know with the 62stc you can only delete the data on the device from the device menus. You can't delete any internal data via Basecamp. In addition, you should delete the /GPX/temp.gpx file on the device to avoid previously transferred data from being re-imported.


    I believe he figured out that this was needed, but now (as I understand it) he cannot go into Google Earth and import the newly written data from his device. He was apparently able to do this however, before he did the clunky-clear (you described) and reload from basecamp.


    Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for SamFreedom, but I understand the question. Maybe someone more expert than me will be along to help.
  • It should be simple enough. With your 62 connected and the relevant data showing in the bottom left hand pane select the data you want to be shown in Google Earth. Then in Basecamp go to View, Google earth, Selected items as I posted above. That will open GE with the selected items showing.
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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago
    Right. However:

    I kind of get the impression he wants to initiate the "read from device" from within Google Earth directly.... and that it used to work, but not now. That kinda implies this isn't a basecamp problem at all, UNLESS Basecamp somehow modified/mangled the data it wrote to the device in such a way that it still works in the device, but Google Earth cannot find it. SamFreedom, can you clarify?
  • Well you can do it that way but then you don't really know what data you're importing. I've just imported data from my GPS that had been sent there by BC without issue directly into GE. If that is what the OP is trying to do and GE is crashing/not working correctly I'd uninstall then reinstall GE.
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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago
    I kind of get the impression he wants to initiate the "read from device" from within Google Earth directly....


    Google Earth uses GPSBabel to import from devices directly (which really annoyed the GPSBabel developer when they started doing so without his permission some years ago).

    The version of Google Earth I have (7.1.2.2041), which I think is the latest, uses an old version of GPSBabel. It might be worth trying copying the latest version to the Google Earth installation.
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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago
    Ok, bear with me as I reply chronologically

    I believe he figured out that this was needed, but now (as I understand it) he cannot go into Google Earth and import the newly written data from his device. He was apparently able to do this however, before he did the clunky-clear (you described) and reload from basecamp.


    Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for SamFreedom, but I understand the question. Maybe someone more expert than me will be along to help.
    Exactly. I've found Garmin to be product-centric, not really customer-centric but I wonder if it's just the nature of the field -- meaning that trying to make all the terminology uniform across all devices and to make everything super user-friendly probably has some serious "diminishing returns" at a certain point. And, so, that's where we, as users, have to get together and really figure out just what each other is talking about. Thanks for helping make my situation clearer.

    It should be simple enough. With your 62 connected and the relevant data showing in the bottom left hand pane select the data you want to be shown in Google Earth. Then in Basecamp go to View, Google earth, Selected items as I posted above. That will open GE with the selected items showing.
    Ok, first the good news -- I didn't even know that option existed from within Basecamp. I'm not sure yet if it'll do what I want (meaning, add one or more specific tracks after I clean them up) but it seems to offer that.

    Now the bad news -- I tried to view my latest edited track in Google Earth the way you suggested and it told me several or more features need to be updated. Then a dialog box said, "The feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk that is not available. Insert the Google Earth disk and click OK". So I checked to see if maybe I didn't have the latest version of GE but Google Earth release notes show my version 7.1.2.2041 as the latest. So I clicked "Cancel" which didn't really cancel the whole process but just skipped the mystical update and went to the next step. It warned me that it would close and restart GE so I clicked "Cancel" again. And then it finally gave me what you originally had me ask for...

    I'm not crazy about all the "points" now showing up in GE. I just want to edit tracks, send them back to my GPS cleaned up, *clear out the old unedited track* then IMPORT that cleaned up track and waypoints into GE so that I just have a simple track and waypoints (to add to the fun, GE calls them Paths).

    Right. However:

    I kind of get the impression he wants to initiate the "read from device" from within Google Earth directly.... and that it used to work, but not now. That kinda implies this isn't a basecamp problem at all, UNLESS Basecamp somehow modified/mangled the data it wrote to the device in such a way that it still works in the device, but Google Earth cannot find it. SamFreedom, can you clarify?
    Yes, that is exactly what happened. I go on a hike. I come back and import the 62stc into basecamp. I clean up the track and then I want to send it back to my device. But for some reason the original unedited track still remains in the device. That original unedited track then ends up, again, in both GE and basecamp.

    As an amateur, I read a little bit and then tried to delete everything out of the GPS and then re-export my whole basecamp to the device. It seemed to work insofar as using the GPS was concerned but then GE couldn't find anything to import from the GPS.

    Well you can do it that way but then you don't really know what data you're importing. I've just imported data from my GPS that had been sent there by BC without issue directly into GE. If that is what the OP is trying to do and GE is crashing/not working correctly I'd uninstall then reinstall GE.
    GE has always worked stellar and continues to work fine in general. The only problem is that once I tried deleting everything from the GPS and then re-exported basecamp to the GPS, an import of the GPS from within GE would yield "no data loaded", whereas before it always imported from the GPS.

    I hope that's somehow clearer.

    Google Earth uses GPSBabel to import from devices directly (which really annoyed the GPSBabel developer when they started doing so without his permission some years ago).

    The version of Google Earth I have (7.1.2.2041), which I think is the latest, uses an old version of GPSBabel. It might be worth trying copying the latest version to the Google Earth installation.
    Well, I guess I'll go read up on that a bit more because it wasn't clear how that could be related to this problem. GE was importing from my 62stc GPS just fine until I directly emptied the GPX folder on it and re-exported everything from basecamp onto the GPS.
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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago
    Well, I guess I'll go read up on that a bit more because it wasn't clear how that could be related to this problem.


    It isn't applicable unless you're using Google Earth to import directly from your device. Your reply indicates you're not doing that.