Problems Converting Tracks to Routes in 4.3.3

I have a couple of questions:

Do you have a map selected that is not the Global Map? Like City Nav North America or some such? Also, what kind of a route is it? Is it a driving route? If it is a driving route, where is the route located?

Can you e-mail me some data to [email][email protected][/email]? I will get the e-mail and I will try and recreate your issue.

Thanks!

I haven't tried that but I can certainly create a route from a track without any issue, that's with 4.3.4 on Win 7

I have opened a case to improve this. Hopefully we will have some improvements in a near future release. Thanks for the patience, and all of the great feedback. Your feedback helps us improve the product.

That error message - super informative!:rolleyes:

Combine tracks - Convert to Route - Convert back to track - SOLVED?

So I went out. I used the satnav only when i was lost, not all the time.

Back home my workflow is as follows:

Remove all external devices from PC inc camera cards etc. (otherwise device will not connect)

Connect the device. Wait for it to be recognised.

Open BC. (Download and install another s/w update...)

Sync the device.

Move the new tracks into a new 'working' folder so only they are shown on the map.

Fiddle with map to get the view right - 2D - zoom - detail - line and icon size.

Add some new tracks/ points to clarify which roads i travelled down when the device was not on and hence recording tracks.

Join these new tracks to the tracks the device recorded by selecting all the tracks and right clicking - choose 'join...' from context menu.

Ah, but any tracks are point-to-point and don't 'know' about roads. So following advice above (Thanks [email][email protected][/email] and others!) I switched to 'Cycling' or 'Walking' in the BC menu bar.

Then I can convert my new composite track to a route - either by right clicking the track name or opening the track window and selecting the option button at the bottom. This conversion does little - The shape doesn't change (you have tricked it into thinking you want to walk/cycle that EXACT path....).

But never mind - you are now in a ROUTE window (not a track window) so you have different controls - IN THE ROUTE WINDOW (as STUDENT_NL mentions in minimalist fashion) there is a pull-down under the Properties tab at the top between the route name and the route colour selector...

This pull-down does not say 'mode of travel' or something obvious (!) but instead it might say 'direct' - referencing the point-to-point nature of the route. However when you click on this pull-down, hey presto! all the modes of travel are available...

When you click on any of these, your route is INSTANTLY recalculated - no second chances(!) - so if you choose a mode that uses ROADS (e.g. car, bike) then your new route will become normal again, calculated to follow the roads.

If there aren't enough points in the original track, the route might not be the one you want - and you then have to go back to the map and move/add points, and then recalculate the route again.

Once the route is perfect you can then convert that route back to a track.

Rename your track something meaningful.

Cup of coffee.

And that is how you create a track of a trip you already made. Happy now.:)

Apologies to the people who a. think this is obvious (geeks!) and b.those who don't have a clue what I'm doing. Hopefully this will help people like me who are just 'users' who aren't expecting to have to work so hard to achieve something apparently simple.

[Update] track to route to track: verdict: partial win?

So converting tracks to routes and back to tracks is less satisfying than recording a track on the device in full in the first place -

Converting to route is frustration-inducing - the system always wants to take you on a slightly different route than you actually did - not least because you might wander about and not obey the strict rules - e.g staying off motorways. These rules fight against you even if you place extra points to control the road you're on.

Secondly converting to routes strips out any real data about your journey such as leg speed, elevation, time of day etc. This isn't a problem if what you want is a new route. But if the goal is to gain a complete track from a multitude of 'partials' then its less than encouraging.

Maybe if I had created routes for the missing segments, then converted to tracks, then joined the tracks, then I might have ended up with a complete track with any original data still intact. maybe.

Instead I think I will buy a device to charge the unit so I can keep my satnav powered on for the whole trip.:D

As I understand it, you have some recorded tracks from your device. These tracks are being edited by either deleting and/or moving some points. In addition, you are creating addition tracks using Create Track tool (icon looks like foot prints on the tool bar). You then want to join these tracks with the final result being a combined track.

If this is correct, it is working in older v4.2.5. There should be no need to convert a track to a route to a track. Just select the tracks you wish to join, right click>advanced>join selected tracks. Make sure the tracks are in the proper order start to finish. If not select one out of place and move it using the up/down arrow icons to the left. If you get something weird, then one or more tracks need to be inverted. So undo the join (ctrl+z) and make the necessary corrections. and try again.

If my understanding of your task is correct and the above does not work I suggest that you start a new thread for you issue. The title of this thread is really a different issue and the thread being somewhat older may not get noticed by the Garmin folks. Call it something like “problems joining tracks in version x.y.z”.

@niner21

What device are you using? I ask because your signature mentions a nuvi ... and nuvis use either trips or routes?

BTLAAKE - thanks. I won't do anything more until next w/e probably but you probably noticed my post was a kind of 'stream of consciousness'... giving some help hopefully but also with some queries. The other posts seem to want to solve different problems so yes I will start a new thread if i need to.

The reason for my need to convert to route is so BC can use the magic to follow the roads (whereas tracks are straight lines between points - unless I am ignorant (again!).