I don't even know how to title this...route question

I too am struggling to see why you're suggesting what you are :confused:

Agreed. Having used Garmin products for the last 13 years and having owned a number of models I've never ever seen a device re-organize route points automatically at any time. Never. Ever.

As others have noted route points are transferred in the order the user put them in.

The only reason I can think of for that occurring is that there some kind of "optimize" function, in the device, that re-organizes the points.

On by non-Nuvi device editing an imported Route is not allowed. The only way to see the Route Points is by starting navigation of the Route and viewing a turn by turn page. I would assume there is something similar on a Nuvi. I also have the ability to view a Route before initiating navigation, this would be another way to verify that the Route is correct. Can you do this on a Nuvi?

On by non-Nuvi device editing an imported Route is not allowed.

I think my Oregon 450 is the same. However my nuvi 1490T and GPSmap 76CSx both allow points in a route t be re-organized whether it was created in the unit or transferred.

Can you do this on a Nuvi?

You can on 13xx/14xx nuvi's (that support routes). That said they support (real) routes as per outdoor models etc. Newer units, such as the OP's, have the "Trip Planner". Thankfully I don't own one of those.

You can do it on the later nuvis with trip planner .... 2013 models on. Not sure about pre-2013.

I suspect the OP is viewing the Waypoints sent to the device, but this is not the same as viewing a Route or the user points and their order used to create a Route.

Good point. Another issue is one of terminology. In my nuvi waypoints are called Favorites. I believe they're called something else in newer nuvi's. Garmin uses different terminology for different markets (e.g. Automotove, Outdoor, Fitness etc).

Also as both SUSSAMB and I have pointed out the OP's device doesn't implement "routes". It has the Trip Planner. Routes and Trips aren't the same although they (are supposed to) accomplish the same thing.

After working with these devices more, routes I create from Waypoints in Basecamp do appear to upload in the correct order into my devices.
However, the order I place the waypoints in in the Route editor do not alter the order of those same waypoints in the collections list. That is mainly a basecamp thing.
Also, I'm beginning to wonder if what I am calling a route is different from what others are calling a route?

STUARTMW - As you mentioned. variety of devices may be a contributing factor to misunderstanding in these forums. Until you've been at this forum a while and become familiar with the devices, it may not occur to one that those answering your questions are familiar with different devices and that as you say, terminology and even functionality may be different on different devices.

I was not aware that my devices do not "implement" routes. Maybe at some point I will purchase a 1490 just to see the difference.

I thought the 2460 and the 2595 both allowed me to work with routes.
Someone who is very familiar with one of those devices might better understand the original question.
Then again, I might better understand the situation better given more time working with it.

BTLAAKE - I'm still getting up to speed with these devices. The devices I'm using are listed in my signature. What devices are you working with?

The newer nuvis use 'trips' although 'routes' created on Basecamp are converted to 'trips' automatically. There's some discussion on routes versus trips here http://forums.gpsreview.net/discussion/26914/2555-vs-1450-trips-and-routes/p1 and here http://forums.gpsreview.net/discussion/25458/creating-routes-with-nuvi-trip-planner/p1

BTLAAKE - I'm still getting up to speed with these devices. The devices I'm using are listed in my signature. What devices are you working with?

I've only owned outdoor devices. Currently use a 62 series and have a much older 60/76 series.

I'm not sure there is that much difference between a "Trip" and a "Route". Trip Planner is an interface for creating a route. It may or may not provide access to some features not present in the Routing interface.

Keep in mind that there are no conversions between a "Trip" and a "Route". This would be one of the first things Garmin would have to do in order for customers to share and utilize data (either historic or from other devices). For this reason, I suspect either interface will work fine on any device.

I've only owned outdoor devices. Currently use a 62 series and have a much older 60/76 series.

I'm not sure there is that much difference between a "Trip" and a "Route". Trip Planner is an interface for creating a route. It may or may not provide access to some features not present in the Routing interface.

In the nuvi world there are significant differences between a route and a trip, and even between 'trips' depending on whether your nuvi is pre-2013 or not :)