Very disappointed

Former Member
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I recently purchased an RV760LMT, I did so because my nuvi was old and the size of the screen was inadequate.

I have been trying to use base camp to plan routes for my upcoming summer adventures, I have come to the conclusion...I hate it.

Previously, I had done all my route planning using Google maps and then just printed out the directions and applied them to my nuvi manually.

This was time consuming and did not allow me to alter my routes as I chose, to my satisfaction.

Compared to Google maps, basecamp is dreadful. It is not intuitive, is not quick and easy, it is cumbersome and requires far too much study for the average user.

The trip planner feature is most disturbing, it takes every route I plan on a scenic tour far from where I would like to go.

I have viewed the tutorial videos to death with the same results.

If there was a way to load my Google maps onto my Garmin.....trip planning made easy.

And , no I am not a big Google fan overall...there maps are one of the only thing of there's I use.

I would not recommend this product.
  • Well instead of moaning perhaps you could describe what you're trying to do and why you feel you can't? I use Basecamp all the time for trip planning and have no issues at all with it :)
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    For starters try planning a trip from Kingston Ontario Canada to Penn Yan New York. It takes me to Montreal then into Vermont.

    Driving time should be about 3 hours 13 min.

    Kid
  • OK, I don't have the US map but explain how you're trying to do that? Also which map have you selected in the drop down list? And which routing activity did you select?

    To try to help we do need some information about what you're actually doing.
  • Looks like it takes you up the 401 to the I81 border crossing, down to Syracuse, across on the Thruway to the west side of Seneca Lake, then down to Penn Yan. Does that sound about right? No Montreal at all. 196 miles, 3 hr 21 m, using City Nav 2014.4. You're not using the crappy base map, are you?
  • Playing around some more with this in Basecamp 4.2.4 for Mac OS X, I discovered that if I set the activity type to "Motorcycling", it takes the route all the way out to Cornwall before crossing the St. Lawrence into NY. You're using "Driving" as the activity, right? The avoidances for Motorcycling include major highways and Interstates, so that explains why they're so different.
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    I'll pop in here to say "I feel your pain, KIDSHILLEEN": My biggest suggestion to Garmin over this has been to make it more like Google Maps (Google Earth more specifically). And like Appalachan007, find this software too difficult to enjoy using. My first real mapping/routing software was on Windows 3.1 and it was DeLorme Map&Go. I loved that, and I had as much fun planning trips as taking them. I started using MapSource when I got my first GPS, and it wasn't bad. I've converted to Basecamp, but honestly I barely use it for anything other than cataloging, organizing and shuffling waypoints around on my two Garmin devices. Nowadays, I pretty much just transfer my points of interest I find in GoogleEarth to basecamp to Garmin, then select those waypoints on the Nuvi and go. I really miss the enjoyment of planning complex trips, even if I never actually take the trip.
  • Well it takes a bit of time to learn but it's really not that difficult. I use it almost daily to create routes, waypoints etc for my nuvis and my Etrex 20, and find it very simple to use. I wouldn't dream of trying to use Google maps or Google Earth, as Basecamp allows me to plan my routes using the same maps as on my GPS. I do though sometimes use Google Earth to help me visualise hiking routes I've created.

    Guess some things are easier for some folks than others :)
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    For starters try planning a trip from Kingston Ontario Canada to Penn Yan New York. It takes me to Montreal then into Vermont.

    Driving time should be about 3 hours 13 min.

    Kid


    I just tried this. It worked quickly without any problems and the route is the same in Google maps. Maybe you can explain a bit better what you are doing.

    322 km, 3 hours 22 minutes

    Kingston
    Get on Ontario St and drive north
    Turn left onto Cr-15
    Take the Hwy-401 E ramp to the right towards Cornwall
    Keep left onto Hwy-401 E towards Cornwall
    Take exit 661 to the right onto Hwy-137 towards I-81/Hill Island/Ontario/1000 Islands Bridge to USA
    Take exit 25A to the right onto I-90/New York State Thruway towards Albany/Buffalo
    Take the I-90 W ramp to the right towards Buffalo
    Take exit 42 to the right onto Rt-14 towards Geneva/Lyons
    Take the Rt-14 S ramp to the right towards Rt-96/Geneva/Clifton Springs
    Turn right onto Castle St
    Turn left onto Main St
    Keep right onto State Hwy 54 Spur
    Turn right onto Hwy 54
    Turn right onto Main St
    Penn Yan Public Library
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    I am a little slow in responding here, as I was away taking a much deserved long weekend, not for me but my bride. When we travel and we do a lot usually by car, we rarely go on interstates, sticking to the not so beaten path. Until recently I have done all my trip planning on Google Maps and take them along in hard copy apply them in segments to my GPS as we go. This makes for great accuracy but is slow and cumbersome.
    The beginnings of my rant here, was a way of venting at the lack of 'user-friendliness' in a lot of technology.
    To establish an accurate route for my recent trip I started with Google Maps, choosing back roads between home and my destination, this time York, Pa. Using GM (Google maps) I was able to zoom in and out quickly to view what I thought were the appropriate roads for my trip. GM also allowed me to use street view to determine road surface, width and condition, basic suitability for my trip, I find this to be a nice tool.
    To establish my route using GM took less than 5 minutes. I simply click on my start location, my destination location and click enter. Once GM establishes my route I can simply click and drag their route to where I want to go, and it recalculates in milliseconds.
    I then select print.
    I purchased my first Garmin GPS in the early 90's, it was a fish finder type I used for boating on the Great Lakes, it allowed me to establish routes and way points, including reverse routing, easily and on the go with one touch input.
    The bottom line for me is I will give this BC program some time to bend me into shape, failing that I will move on to something better.
    Kid
  • I simply click on my start location, my destination location and click enter. Once GM establishes my route I can simply click and drag their route to where I want to go, and it recalculates in milliseconds.


    And that's pretty much exactly what you can do in Basecamp. Select the waypoint tool, click on your start and create waypoint, same with finish. Select the route tool and drag start/finish to the correct boxes. Basecamp will calculate route. To 'rubber band' the route select the 'insert' tool. Hover it between start/finish until you see a thick black line, click and then you're able to insert via points as required. Very simple once you've tried it a couple of times.