Protect Garmin copyright using BaseCamp

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Garmin are forcing evermore restrictions on their mapping products, presumably, because they feel that such measures protect their intellectual property. The reality, imho, is that it just inconveniences their paying customers and, I have little doubt, the clever people out there would easily overcome such restrictions.

If they want to protect their copyright, I don't know why they don't just encrypt the maps with a key generated when you register. This key is associated to your account and BaseCamp checks this (needs this) to unencrypt the maps. Transfer to devices is controlled like DRM music is now. This would allow complete freedom of where the maps are stored (or copied, or pirated, or posted on public forums) because they are encrypted. Garmin would have complete control because their IP is protected and pirated copies could be traced back to the original account holder (PKI key-pairs are impossible to forge - with current technology) and this whole process would be completely transparent to legitimate customers.

GARMIN> put your customers first, instead of second (third, fourth..) ahead of your own selfish needs.
  • The vast majority of restrictions we put on our mapping products are not to protect Garmin's intellectual property, but our supplier's. Restrictions are added to contracts that BaseCamp must enforce. Believe me, we (engineers) are not a fan of these restrictions because of the user experience and the amount of work that goes into enforcing them. Different vendors have different ideas of what best protects their data and alas, we are forced to live with them.
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    Restrictions are added to contracts that BaseCamp must enforce.


    Thank you for commenting, your point of view is understood.
  • I have never heard of this but who am I.. Could you give me some examples of what you are referring too. What restrictions might we be referring too?

    I remember when there were a lot of copy protection on software, such as Lotus. You could only install it on one computer. If you wanted to install it on a second computer you had to uninstall it on the first then install it on the second.

    I know that the LMT's are restricted to one GPS and I understand that. Not sure what other things are having a problem.

    Respectfully
    BC
  • For instance, there are several maps that we are not allowed to print. We are only allowed to show a 640x480 view of OSGB maps in high detail.
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    My experiences have been mainly around on the trial maps and, more specifically, GB OS mapping products. The maps I download are locked to a device so if I get a second device or a new one, then I have to buy them again (and they are NOT cheap). There’s also those purchased by card – these are locked to the card. Whilst this does allow transfer to other devices, it means that I can’t upgrade the card. A case in point was just today: ran out of space on my card and there’s not a damn thing I can do about it.

    And of course the classic is where I can’t actually install them on my computer – I have to plug the GPS device in every time to use my purchased maps in BaseCamp (though there is a work around for this ‘bug’ – see my previous post).

    I didn’t realise though that these were partner restrictions and not strictly Garmin, though they have to implement them.

    That said, I still believe that an architectural solution (like the one offered above) that is completely transparent to the customer exists and should be adopted before any that restrict utility for legitimate paying customers.
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    That said, I still believe that an architectural solution (like the one offered above) that is completely transparent to the customer exists and should be adopted before any that restrict utility for legitimate paying customers.

    It will be interesting to know about people attitude to this problem nowadays. Have something been changed? What do you think, guys?