More Basecam observations from a long time Mapsource user

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Like most longtime Mapsource users I have quite a collection of past and future trips stored in separate gdb files. As I use my gps for motorcycle trip navigation, I also have an extensive collection of motorcycle roads I've ridden, or plan to ride in the future. Additionally, I've entered the routes from all three Destination Highways books into Mapsource files which I reference and string together when I'm planning routes.

Over the past weekend I thought I'd give Basecamp another shot for planning an upcoming ride to Northern CA. I started by importing my DH Northern California routes into Basecamp. I created a folder for that particular book, and create a list with a folder for each section of the book and it's associated routes. Worked great!

Next I created a folder for the upcoming trip and within that folder started a new list to stored the daily ride routes. I also copied the associated DH lists in the area I'll be riding into this folder. I REALLY like the ability to click between my route list to see my planed routes, and the being able to click on the trip folder to see a composite view with the DH routes. I can then adjust my daily rides to blend in the great roads in NC.

What concerns me is these DH lists/routes are linked back to the same 'my collection' parents. If I accidentally tweak one of these routes I've altered the source which I want to be a static representation of the books.

I <could> dupe the DH routes one by one to create unique copies, but that takes a while. If I duplicate one of the source DH lists a new unique list is created with a '1' at the end, but the routes contained within it are the original routes and are link to the source. It would be nice if duplicating a list to make a new stand alone list also created new stand along routes. It could at least give you the option.

I realize I could make backups to try and protect myself, but I'd have to know I did something to alter one of the routes. With everything in one big database you don't always notice mistakes like this right away.

I know I can create desperate databases, but when you create new DBs they are empty and there doesn't appear to be any easy way to export the folder/list structure into these new databases. You end up with one big collection of the routes and waypoints with the structure.

I also know I can just copy the DB files to create a nice backup of everything to protect my work, but again, without a way to import just parts of one DB into another, it's the same as just making backups which are subject the same data loss if I don't notice a mistake right away.

So, it would be nice to:

1. Be able to duplicate lists and even folders to create stand alone copies of the contents which are independent from the source.
2. Have a way to copy parts of one database into another.
3. Be able to rick click and 'protect' or toggle a list or folder to read/only, etc...

Anyone know of any neat tricks to accomplish any of these?

Like I said, I've just started to scratch the surface of Basecamp so I may just be missing something here that's obvious to someone else.

Thanks!

Adam
  • Sounds like the same issue I've had for the last 2 years, causing me to give up on Basecramp twice.

    Just wait until you load your GPS and try to pull something from favorites!
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    Sounds like the same issue I've had for the last 2 years, causing me to give up on Basecramp twice.

    Just wait until you load your GPS and try to pull something from favorites!


    I haven't even plugged the 660 in yet. I'll try that tonight.
  • Not quite totally what you're asking for in 1, but within a list you can select any number of routes by shift- and ctrl-clicks and duplicate them all at once. So you could create a new list, then from the first list duplicate multiple routes (and you can choose to NOT duplicate the associated waypoints, recommended) then send the dupes to the new list, and delete them from the original (only del not shift-del). Not trivial, but do-able and better than one at a time...
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    Not quite totally what you're asking for in 1, but within a list you can select any number of routes by shift- and ctrl-clicks and duplicate them all at once. So you could create a new list, then from the first list duplicate multiple routes (and you can choose to NOT duplicate the associated waypoints, recommended) then send the dupes to the new list, and delete them from the original (only del not shift-del). Not trivial, but do-able and better than one at a time...


    Good Suggestion! Thanks!!
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    Sounds like the same issue I've had for the last 2 years, causing me to give up on Basecramp twice.

    Just wait until you load your GPS and try to pull something from favorites!


    I just plugged in the unit and had no issues copying the data from my last trip, or loading new routes and waypoints into the gps.
  • I just plugged in the unit and had no issues copying the data from my last trip, or loading new routes and waypoints into the gps.


    Have you looked at your favorites list? It will show every list from BC as a "Category".
  • From my point of view that's what I want, I just wish Basecamp would show categories as lists when you import favourites into Basecamp (like it used to).
  • From my point of view that's what I want, I just wish Basecamp would show categories as lists when you import favourites into Basecamp (like it used to).


    It becomes very cluttered after about a dozen trips, let alone the 3 dozen I got up to. At that point, it's so useless, it's frustrating. After going back to MS, I now only have the relevant categories.

    I'm not sure how having a waypoint (we'll use "Home" as an example) as the only point in 30 categories on my GPS, for trips that I took last spring, for example, is useful?
  • I just create a separate nuvi folder in Basecamp and organise everything in there as I want, then send that to my nuvi.
  • I just create a separate nuvi folder in Basecamp and organise everything in there as I want, then send that to my nuvi.


    Maybe it works better for a Nuvi, I don't know. I use a Zumo, and I have every trip or plan listed in my "Categories" under "Favorites. Yes, I do (did) have a distinct folder hierarchy set up in Basecramp, but it still used every "list" that a waypoint was listed under.

    I just reloaded Mapsource and now I only have to organize what I need to see. And I don't have to worry about accidentally adulterating a waypoint, route or track because they're in a file.