I give up.

I've been trying to assimilate to Basecramp for almost a year, but it makes no sense to me for having dozens of planned and recorded trips. The entire catalog of of lists loading as categories finally made me snap on my most recent trip. It got to be a horrendous irritation when trying to find "Favorite" on my 660 and having to sort through any list from basecramp, even though the category wasn't related to the trip I was on? Why does it need to do that? Between that and the mess it causes when I load multiple recorded trips that use a shared waypoint and it doesn't like duplicates? You mean I can't have 2 "BP"s? Whatever!?

:mad::mad:

I downloaded and installed Mapsource and will use that until I can no longer do so.

When Garmin figures out how to make a new and useful mapping program, someone pinch me.
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    I downloaded and installed Mapsource and will use that until I can no longer do so.


    That's what I do. However MapSource does have an issue with newer map products in certain areas (it crashes) so some have no choice. Also MapSource doesn't support some features (e.g. Birdseye imagery, non-GPS data in tracks/trip logs etc). I therefore do use BaseCamp for holding some kinds of data but don't use it to create routes etc.

    Many may not realize that BaseCamp was initially designed for outdoor units with topo maps.

    ...Garmin BaseCamp – a utility that allows users to plan and manage trips, routes, tracks, and waypoints and transfer them between the computer and applicable Garmin outdoor handheld device.


    http://garmin.blogs.com/pr/2009/01/introducing-basecamp-garmins-new-tool-for-planning-and-reviewing-all-of-your-outdoor-adventures.html#.UeBe523_nrQ

    Also the early versions of BC only supported topo maps.

    BaseCamp lets users view both 24K and 100K topo maps in 2D or 3D renderings.


    Now since its release BC has evolved into a more general program to replace MapSource. For some it does that and for others it doesn't.
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    The trick I found to successfully using Basecamp (and actually liking it!) was to forget all about Mapsource and drink the Basecamp koolaid. It is just plain different, so don't expect it to ever work like Mapsource. Once mastered, (and it did take some time), it works quite well. I wish you luck! :)
  • The trick I found to successfully using Basecamp (and actually liking it!) was to forget all about Mapsource and drink the Basecamp koolaid. It is just plain different, so don't expect it to ever work like Mapsource. Once mastered, (and it did take some time), it works quite well. I wish you luck! :)


    I tried. I completely uninstalled MS last fall and nosed into BC with a vengance.

    There are just too many issues that make BC not a solution. The UI is not intuitive, but the db issue caused the most recent "straw that broke the camel's back".

    I have had a busy summer, and as I piled up trip plans and trips taken (I save my tracks so I can eference them in the future), it made my GPS a mess. With every trip I loaded, the "Favorites:Categories" menu got longer and longer, until I had to just select "All Favorites" at the top of the list and scroll through everything. This isn't very fun to do at 75 mph on a bike.

    Like I said, I'm done. I re-loaded MS. I keep my trips seperated. The UI does what I want. I can use excel for "trip planning", and build in more funtionality.

    Wake me up when BC has some user-configurable functions in it.
  • The trick I found to successfully using Basecamp (and actually liking it!) was to forget all about Mapsource and drink the Basecamp koolaid. It is just plain different, so don't expect it to ever work like Mapsource. Once mastered, (and it did take some time), it works quite well. I wish you luck! :)


    Yep, that worked for me too :)
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    ...and drink the Basecamp koolaid.


    That didn't work out for Jim Jones and his followers :p
  • One thing you might try - I've been using it this way for trips and Geocaching outings. I put waypoints and tracks/routes for a trip into a separate list. Export the list to a GPX file. Drag and drop the GPX to my eTrex 30. Copy the GPX to my POI folder that I use for my Nuvi and use POILoader to install that list on the Nuvi. Everything from that list shows up as a POI category (or list) in the Extras menu on the Nuvi. Nothing goes into Favorites and when I tap the list in Extras, Custom POI's, it only shows the stuff from just that one list. Quite similar to what I used to do with MapSource.
  • One thing you might try - I've been using it this way for trips and Geocaching outings. I put waypoints and tracks/routes for a trip into a separate list. Export the list to a GPX file. Drag and drop the GPX to my eTrex 30. Copy the GPX to my POI folder that I use for my Nuvi and use POILoader to install that list on the Nuvi. Everything from that list shows up as a POI category (or list) in the Extras menu on the Nuvi. Nothing goes into Favorites and when I tap the list in Extras, Custom POI's, it only shows the stuff from just that one list. Quite similar to what I used to do with MapSource.


    I've found it a lot easier to just use MS. It does it right with a single button. :)
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    i've found it a lot easier to just use ms.


    +1 :)
  • I've found it a lot easier to just use MS. It does it right with a single button. :)

    Gotcha. MS does not support my eTrex and Geocaching, so I have no choice but to use BaseCamp.
    I could use MS for the road trip portion with my Nuvi, and BC for the eTrex. But I prefer to use just the one application and waypoint database and that was an acceptable workaround.