350LM and BaseCamp vs. TYRE and TomTom Rider - enhancement request?

Former Member over 12 years ago

Via Points and route/trip import export problems:
I'm new here but a long time user of GPS on my bike. My TomTom Rider was stolen in NC so I bought the "latest and greatest" Garmin. I always used TYRE to plan routes and knew that I had to put in a sufficient number of waypoints to make the TomTom follow the actual route I'd chosen. I used TripMaster to track my ride routes and create new iteneraries from them. A little primitive, but simple, and it worked. Expected some improvement with the pricey upgrade to Garmin. I was hoping the Garmin would solve the problem by not choosing it's own route based on its algorithms but use the actual route shown on the screen when you create your trip this way. I guess not.

So this is kind of an enhancement request I suppose. 1. TYRE has a feature that allows the user, with a couple of mouse clicks, to reduce the number of waypoints in a route to a number acceptable to the GPS (at least to the TomTom - doesn't seem to work with the 350). It just seems to remove every other waypoint until it reaches the required number. I'd like to see that feature in BaseCamp. 2. TYRE uses Google Maps and i surmise therefore that this allows one to drag and drop a waypoint to "reshape" one's route. I like that and don't seem to be able to find it in BaseCamp. Handy feature.

I managed to pull an activity plot off the 350 and into Tyre and noted that it created over 1000 waypoints for a 170 mile trip. Tediously I deleted most of them to be able to share the route with fellow riders. I'm wondering if I used the TrackBak feature and saved that as a trip I would get the same result? TrackBak is theoretically a great thing when you are following a ride leader who's taking you somewhere you've never gone and you want to save it to duplicate that ride later. Apparently you can do the same thing with your daily activity log, except that a 300 mile round trip will create 2000+ via points...

I've only had the 350 for a week, so be gentle if these issues have been beaten to death in the past. I did find plenty of threads in my search for a solution to the problem of importing trips from BaseCamp routes or from TYRE and having them broken into multiple routes because of too many via points. Frustrating. But none of them seemed to end in a simple answer to what I think should be a simple problem to solve. And I have a simple mind and like to keep things simple... you get the point...

So my goal is simple. I want to create and save motorcycle routes and rides and have my gps follow those routes exactly turn by turn every time, whether they be 20 miles or 2000 miles. If we can get the 350 to do that I won't feel too bad about my purchase.

Thanks
Bob

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

Load track into Basecamp, select track, convert track to route.

... ken..

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

Via Points and route/trip import export problems:
I'm new here but a long time user of GPS on my bike. My TomTom Rider was stolen in NC so I bought the "latest and greatest" Garmin. I always used TYRE to plan routes and knew that I had to put in a sufficient number of waypoints to make the TomTom follow the actual route I'd chosen. I used TripMaster to track my ride routes and create new iteneraries from them. A little primitive, but simple, and it worked. Expected some improvement with the pricey upgrade to Garmin. I was hoping the Garmin would solve the problem by not choosing it's own route based on its algorithms but use the actual route shown on the screen when you create your trip this way. I guess not.

So this is kind of an enhancement request I suppose. 1. TYRE has a feature that allows the user, with a couple of mouse clicks, to reduce the number of waypoints in a route to a number acceptable to the GPS (at least to the TomTom - doesn't seem to work with the 350). It just seems to remove every other waypoint until it reaches the required number. I'd like to see that feature in BaseCamp. 2. TYRE uses Google Maps and i surmise therefore that this allows one to drag and drop a waypoint to "reshape" one's route. I like that and don't seem to be able to find it in BaseCamp. Handy feature.

I managed to pull an activity plot off the 350 and into Tyre and noted that it created over 1000 waypoints for a 170 mile trip. Tediously I deleted most of them to be able to share the route with fellow riders. I'm wondering if I used the TrackBak feature and saved that as a trip I would get the same result? TrackBak is theoretically a great thing when you are following a ride leader who's taking you somewhere you've never gone and you want to save it to duplicate that ride later. Apparently you can do the same thing with your daily activity log, except that a 300 mile round trip will create 2000+ via points...

I've only had the 350 for a week, so be gentle if these issues have been beaten to death in the past. I did find plenty of threads in my search for a solution to the problem of importing trips from BaseCamp routes or from TYRE and having them broken into multiple routes because of too many via points. Frustrating. But none of them seemed to end in a simple answer to what I think should be a simple problem to solve. And I have a simple mind and like to keep things simple... you get the point...

So my goal is simple. I want to create and save motorcycle routes and rides and have my gps follow those routes exactly turn by turn every time, whether they be 20 miles or 2000 miles. If we can get the 350 to do that I won't feel too bad about my purchase.

Thanks
Bob

As you have discovered, all GPS software and features are not the same from brand to brand. Nor are all planning applications - online or on your computer. If you haven't done so, I would recommend that you watch the online Tutorial Video's for BaseCamp found in the HELP feature as well as read over the Help for Route creation and transfer to GPS. There you will find information on how to filter out the via points so that the zumo 350LM can accept the route. This isn't the zumo 350LM forum but if keep the via point count below 50 and transfer the route to the zumo's internal storage (not the µSD Card) it should calculate your route as you saw it in BaseCamp (ASSUMING you have your zumo 350LM Route settings equivalent to what you have in BaseCamp).

You should read over the TracBack™ feature a bit more for your zumo 350LM. The TracBack™ â€‹feature is a means by which you can find your way back along the path you just drove/rode/walked. The TracBack™ â€‹feature uses the Trip Log you are recording as the GPS moves, reverses it and navigates you backward along the path your GPS recorded. You can save your Trip Log on the zumo and transfer it to BaseCamp where, as Ken mentioned, you can convert your Track(s) to a route by simply selecting it and choosing "Create Route from Track". In you BaseCamp settings you can also choose how many via points you want to create when a route is created from a track.

Cheers,