Trip Planner Feature is here! (BETA)

Former Member over 12 years ago

Hello! My name is Jason. I am a fairly new desktop apps developer here at Garmin, and I would like to introduce everyone to our new Trip Planner feature! Trip Planner is still in Beta, but we were hoping here on our team that we could get some feedback in the hopes of improving what we have created. Please take a moment, download the build, play with the new feature, and give us some feedback right here in this thread. We would look forward to hearing from you!

“Trip Planner” is a new feature that allows you to easily create trip schedules for vacations or business and lets you add points of interest such as hotels, theme parks, places to eat, camp grounds, and anything else that comes with your map.

The BaseCamp 4.2.0.4 build gives you an early preview into Trip Planner. Please let us know how you like it and what you think we can improve.

The build can be found in this thread: https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?37158-BaseCamp-4-2-0-4-Beta-is-available

Creating a Trip

You can set fields such as how long your trip is in days or if you know the dates you can enter them. You can also specify how long you wish to travel in a given day, and whether or not this trip will have return legs.

Starting point and Ending point

You can search for just about anything you would like to travel to and from. In the example posted below, we go from one city to another and once trip planner has created your routes, you can enter in the specific locations where you will be traveling from and to.

Viewing your Trip

Once your trip is created you can view your routes!

Editing your Trip

You can move points of interest up and down, you can create new hubs, and you can drag and drop find results into your trip. You can search along the route for points of interest in a given day, and you can also create days and new destinations. Trip planner takes care of the rest! You can even print your trip!

0 atlas_cached over 11 years ago

Can you post a screen shot? Hard to help with something we can not see.

0 Former Member over 11 years ago

Another Test

Yes, it seems the "add day before" feature is causing the issue. I tried another one and told it to plan a trip from my waypoint of Florida Pines to Redwood City. It broke it into 8 days. I then clicked on Day 1 and added a day before. When I then selected the new Day one and selected Jan 1 on the calendar it did the strange ordering of dates as you see in the attachment.

I can break anything.

0 SUSSAMB over 11 years ago

Trip Planner added to BaseCamp Wiki. :cool:

Nice write up, thanks :)

0 Deerhead over 11 years ago

DEERHEAD, can you show me a screen shot of what you are trying to do? I just want to be sure I am clear on your issue.

Please note that after imputing the actual days Trip Planner itself divided the trip into the days using something. I personally put 18 hour driving day length. Regardless, after adding via to the first days travel Trip Planner 'stuck' with the first days destination that it calculated and DID NOT move to the next day after the via's were added. Also, it appears the only via that can be added are from 'text' NOT the map!!! If I try to add a via using the Insert too bar, a warning tells me I have to exit Trip Planner.

Let me recap how wrong the logic is in Trip Planner: I ride a motorcycle and want to take scenic or twisty roads, not necessarily the slabs. I, as well as others only know the start and finish locations, everything else is a variation of the straight line between the two points (start/finish). Using the simple concept of varying a route based on viewing of the maps' twisty roads or roads I don't want to take, I 'build' my route! So, the question is how to do that in Trip Planner? Right now I get what you see below, which I guess is, once Trip Planner has set nightly/driving hour stops it doe NOT modify them based on additional via points. The inability to add via's using the map and the tool bar insert ability basically make the entire Trip Planner useless.
Please straighten me out, and tell me where I'm wrong. I am doing the Three Flags Classic ride with time sensitive via arrivals, and I simply want Trip Planner, using my default values, to determine my arrival times.
Ride Safe,
Robert

0 Former Member over 11 years ago

Trying to open trip crashes BaseCamp

Yep, I can break anything! I managed to get in a situation where trying to open a trip will crash BaseCamp. What I was trying to do was find a way that a series of trips would appear in calendar order rather than alphabetical. As full-time RVer, trying to plan out my travels for next year and need to be able to arrange them chronologically to make any sense of it.

So, I was copying and pasting some trips around and got in the configuration you see in the attachment. The two top items that do not have the double push pin cannot be opened now - it crashes. I guess I have learned not to do what I did, but then it shouldn't let me should it? I'll try moving them back under a trip maybe.

0 Former Member over 11 years ago

Adding Non-travel days would be nice

Maybe I am trying to use this wrong, but assume I have a trip where I want to plan out a trip across country. I might want to travel a day, maybe stop somewhere a few days then continue on. Assuming I want to select the calendar days for my travel, there does not seem to be a way to do this. Trip Planner assumes you are traveling every day of a trip. I guess I have to break things up into multiple trips, but that is alot of extra work.

0 atlas_cached over 11 years ago

TLKEMP, thank you for documentation.

Looks like you have discovered one or more bugs in the Trip Planner feature of BaseCramp. :)

I do not believe you can do anything other than report your findings in as much detail as possible (thank you) and then wait like the rest of us while Garmin software engineers polish the code.

0 Former Member over 11 years ago

Sure, I like to help make things better. However, after playing with Trip Planner some today I'm not sure I will continue using it. I found it too frustrating to try to plan an itinerary. It seems it tries to plan my trip for me. I want to build my trip myself.

For example, I had a new trip partially planned and thought I'd try to "Add Hub", not really knowing what a hub was. Well, it just created a mess of trip segments that made no sense whatsoever. I am just not finding it helpful.

I think I will just plan my travels in a number of "routes" and maybe name my routes with a numerical prefix so they are presented in the order I plan to travel them.

0 Former Member over 11 years ago

Sure, I like to help make things better. However, after playing with Trip Planner some today I'm not sure I will continue using it. I found it too frustrating to try to plan an itinerary. It seems it tries to plan my trip for me. I want to build my trip myself.

For example, I had a new trip partially planned and thought I'd try to "Add Hub", not really knowing what a hub was. Well, it just created a mess of trip segments that made no sense whatsoever. I am just not finding it helpful.

I think I will just plan my travels in a number of "routes" and maybe name my routes with a numerical prefix so they are presented in the order I plan to travel them.

I "toyed" around with the trip planner a bit too. (Just for curiosity as I use direct routing with waypoints almost exclusively in the woods.) I'm sure there must be some benefits to using it, but I "didn't quite get it" either. Seemed like more work than it was worth. Your idea of separate routes with numerical prefixes makes more sense to me, but I may be missing something.....

PS: Whatever you do, don't try to switch from hub view to flat view (or vice versa!) C-R-A-S-H

0 Deerhead over 11 years ago

and esurgoi

Sure, I like to help make things better. However, after playing with Trip Planner some today I'm not sure I will continue using it. I found it too frustrating to try to plan an itinerary. It seems it tries to plan my trip for me. I want to build my trip myself.

For example, I had a new trip partially planned and thought I'd try to "Add Hub", not really knowing what a hub was. Well, it just created a mess of trip segments that made no sense whatsoever. I am just not finding it helpful.

I think I will just plan my travels in a number of "routes" and maybe name my routes with a numerical prefix so they are presented in the order I plan to travel them.

It seems it tries to plan my trip for me. I want to build my trip myself.--Yep and once it does it doesn't want to modify its own stopping waypoint to accommodate your revisions. Like you say it won't allow you to make your own trip!! ESPECIALLY when it won't allow the map insert tool to function while you're constructing/building your trip!