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Problem with creating route, shaping points become destinations when loaded into GPS

Former Member over 12 years ago

Hi all,

Where am I going wrong? I have created a route using the New Route tool. I want to follow a route of my choosing so I created the route by clicking points along the route, mostly at intersections.

Once I have my route created I open the route dialog and set each way point between the start and finish to Don't Alert (shaping point only) Everything looks great in BC. When I load this into my 2595LMT each way point becomes a destination. The route only shows from the start point to the first way point. From there my GPS wants to route me back to the start point. Sometimes it will create the next leg of the trip but not till I have driven well beyond my way point. This being the case I have to remember which way to turn at each intersection so the unit will create the next leg. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of using a GPS?? I found a workaround by creating my shaping points a distance before or after the intersection so that I am going in the correct direction while the GPS creates the next leg.

There must be something I am doing wrong otherwise I have wasted $200 updating to a GPS I can load custom routes into.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

There must be something I am doing wrong otherwise I have wasted $200 updating to a GPS I can load custom routes into.

See, that is part of the problem. Your can't "load routes" onto a 2595. It uses *trips*, which are something different. When you send a route to the Nuvi, it will be converted to a trip. They behave like a collection of simple two point routes that each have a start and finish. So it will never be quite the same as the older models that used routes. Garmin handheld devices, like the Montana, still use routes but not the Nuvi.

However, it sounds like there could be some othe buggy behavior in what you describe.

0 SUSSAMB over 12 years ago

Part of the problem with trip planner is as you describe; if you set via points at junctions you don't know which way to turn. The trick, as you've discovered, is to set them past junctions so that you make the turn first :)

Your other alternative is to exchange your 2595 for an older 14xx series, the last to use the older style 'route planner' that many (including myself) find far superior to 'trip planner'.

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

Thanks for the clarity. I've been a die hard Garmin fan for years but it looks like that's going to change.

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

Jumping on this, I'm just getting rid of a Zumo 660, as I don't need a waterproof sat-nav any more, but I do a lot of route planning on the computer. I was planning on getting a newer unit, but not sure about this trip planner. For example, if I have a days driving, and I have to use 5 via points to get the route going where I want it to, and I then upload to a sat-nav that uses trip planner, does that then mean I'll then have 6 routes, rather than 1 route with 5 via's?

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

I was planning on getting a newer unit, but not sure about this trip planner.

I believe you're correct that new model nuvi's ("Trip Planner" units) don't accept vias. That said one doesn't have to purchase a newer model. For example the 1490LMT is still for sale, can hold 10 routes (real routes) and accepts vias.

I've read that Garmin has a yet-to-be-released range of nuvi's that will allow vias in Trips. Perhaps you could look into those. That said personally I'd be very wary of such claims until the truth is ascertained. User's have been caught before.

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

For example the 1490LMT is still for sale, can hold 10 routes (real routes) and accepts vias. . . I'd be very wary of such claims until the truth is ascertained.

This is most certainly true. I made the necessary conversion from a real Garmin GPS to a Nuvi (2455) almost a year ago and didn't like a lot of what I got, though the current maps (no longer available for my older units), more sensitive receiver and other features were very nice. Based on the recommendations on these boards, I searched out a 1490, and it does a much better job (but heavier and bulkier). Just yesterday my drive down from O'Hare to Blue Island, which I purposely routed off the tollway, was a mess on the 2455. Today with the 1490, all is well.

Act quickly -- the 1490 has been discontinued by Garmin, but many outlets (including Amazon, last I checked) have them available at quite attractive prices.

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

...the 1490 has been discontinued...

I thought so too. The 1490T is discontinued but the 1490LMT is still current. The only difference is that the LMT comes with lifetime map updates out of the box.

FYI I checked Amazon's 1490LMT pricing this morning and it's gone up. A while back they were going for US$140-150 new but they're now just under $200. Perhaps demand has risen.

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

So, does anyone know the newest/best Garmin units/model range that does routes rather than the trip planning thing, apart from the 1490?

0 SUSSAMB over 12 years ago

The newest/best is the 14xx range, after that Garmin moved to trip planner. Only other option isn't a nuvi ... the Montana still uses route planner.

0 Former Member over 12 years ago

I have a Montana 600 and love it. It works well in the car and on the trail, but is rather expensive and bulky compared to the Nuvi. No compatibility with traffic receivers and you have to purchase City Navigator separately. But it has many advanced features not available on the Nuvi, a transreflective screen, is waterproof/shockproof, compatible with satellite imagery and can use AA batteries. You can store 200 routes on the device and it will not recalculate them if they were created with the same map.