New Basecamp not finding 100k Topos

We did drop support for CD based map installs.

And there's a very easy workaround as I described.

IMO if the OP has a problem it's with their specific machine.

I finally got around to trying FALAGAR's suggestion and method for reinstalling both 100k Topos and Basecamp.

The results are the same. Basecamp is not seeing the maps.

It is interesting that MapInstall does see them and seems willing to try to install them.

I already have them installed on my Montana. I know I have read that Basecamp will read installed maps from a GPS unit. I tried connecting the Montana to the Notebook, but Basecamp is not seeing the Topos on the unit either. I tried Enabling them and having them the only mapset Enabled and noluck reading them.

I don't really know how to do this. I tried connecting with and without Mass Storage on in Spanner interface mode with no luck.

And with Mass Storage on I tried clicking on the SD card where the maps were stored, but Basecamp would not open the card as a file folder.

Think I will also look into modifying the Windows Registry. I can think of a few things to try.

I have the older Garmin Topo series that came out on CDs and you can get them to work with BaseCamp 4.01 on Windows XP.

As FALAGAR pointed out, this version of BaseCamp will not read map data from a CD. STUARTMW’s solution is a little overkill (no offense) since you have already run the map installation. What you will need to do is copy the image data from the CD’s to your hard drive and edit the registry.

On my system MapSource installed stuff in the C:\Program Files\Garmin folder, so I will show you how to set things up there. Your system may differ, but you should be able to put the files anywhere. Create a folder in this location and give it a name, say “USTopo”. On your 3 CDs at the top level you will find folders labeled “East”, “West”, “Alaska” and “Hawaii” that contain all the .img data. Drag and drop these folders to the “USTopo” folder on your hard drive. If you don’t want to access them all, just copy the ones you want.

Now you will have to edit the registry. Run regedit and got to to the MapSource / Product sub folders you found before. Each folder is for different region. You will need to change the data for the Loc entry (and only the Loc entry) to point to the proper folder. For my example, you would change the Loc for the East region to “C:\Program Files\Garmin\USTopo\East”. Double click on Loc and make the change.

You should be able to see the maps in BaseCamp (you’ll no longer need to insert the CDs).
Let us know if you’re successful.

I had already copied the CDs to the hard drive and have been running Mapsource and lately BaseCamp from the hard drive for several years.

But something you said turned out to be the key. I checked the registry and the entry for the loc parameter was pointing to my D drive where I had originally placed the CD info. But the other two entries were pointing to C:\Garmin.

I checked and saw that the Topo East, West, directories were also in C:\Garmin. So I changed the loc parameter to point to C:\Garmin and now both Mapsource and BaseCamp see the Topos.

Problem solved.

I don't know why the installation program put the reference to the D drive in the registry. And the installer must have copied the map directories to C:\Garmin.

I am 99% sure that is not the case, BaseCamp reads registry based maps just fine. We did drop support for CD based map installs.

OK, #1 why would you drop support for CD based map installs? Are you hoping to "force" people to go out and buy more Garmin topo maps? If so, just remember that the number one word processing software was WordStar, which got replaced by WordPerfect, which got replaced by Word. Garmin is at the WordStar stage and if you piss enough people off then eventually someone is going to come eat your lunch.

#2, if you read the thread you'll see that in fact, BaseCamp is no longer properly reading the registry.

When I installed topo, I had set the CD drive as V: and then I had put all of my CD-based Topo maps into C:\garmin\topo\East C:\garmin\topo\West etc. Then I substed V:\: => C:\garmin\topo. This made it so that mapsource could find the topo maps.

In Basecamp, as others have pointed out on this thread, you have to go in to the registry editor, find the Loc references, and change them back from V:\East to C:\garmin\topo\East etc. Then Basecamp can see the topo maps just fine. And so can Mapsource.

It means that Basecamp is either too stupid to follow a subst'ed drive or is not correctly reading and interpreting the Loc info in the registry.

We certainly didn't drop this to force people to buy maps. I didn't make this change in the code, but there was a technical reason that made supporting these old maps cumbersome. Our analytics show that usage of these kinds of maps is very, very low, so a decision was made to drop support for them. You can still use MapSource, or an older version of BaseCamp if you'd like to continue using these kinds of maps.

I apologize for any inconvenience, and thanks to everyone for pointing out work-arounds.

It means that Basecamp is either too stupid to follow a subst'ed drive or is not correctly reading and interpreting the Loc info in the registry.

As I demonstrated, in this post, BaseCamp will locate and use registry based US Topo 100K maps. Your assertion about a bug is bogus.

As I demonstrated, in this post, BaseCamp will locate and use registry based US Topo 100K maps. Your assertion about a bug is bogus.

If Loc points to the substed drive then MapSource finds the topos and BaseCamp doesn't. If Loc points to the hard location where you've copied the CD's then both MapSource and BaseCamp find the topos. Ergo, BaseCamp is failing to follow the substed drive. The failure to be able to follow a substed drive is a bug, not a feature.

Few users are going to know how to either do the procedure you describe or the procedure described in this thread. It is trivial to fix the bug described. BaseCamp should follow the substed drive in the same way that Mapsource does.

Do you describe all of this as an advantageous feature of BaseCamp that is an improvement relative to MapSource?

Nick

The failure to be able to follow a substed drive is a bug, not a feature.

What do you mean by "substed drive"? SUBST died with MS-DOS about 15 years ago. Do you mean soft links, hard links?

Few users are going to know how to either do the procedure you describe or the procedure described in this thread.

Funny, since users have be doing just what I described, or the registry hack, since US Topo US came out. That's probably a decade or more.

BaseCamp should follow the substed drive in the same way that Mapsource does.

Why not just put the maps where you want them and edit the registry? That has always worked for everyone else.

Network Drives Don't Seem To Work

It seems that a mapped network drive doesn't work as a location for the maps copied from the old CDs. I had my topo maps from 3.02 copied to a mapped network drive (Z:\Maps\East, etc) and while MapSource could see them, BaseCamp could not. Moving the maps to a local drive (C:\Maps\East, etc) did the trick as I can now use them in BaseCamp.