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Basecamp Windows v.3.3.1 Custom Waypoint Icons

v.3.3.1 Custom Waypoint Icons

Former Member over 13 years ago

Hi Im using v.3.3.1 on 2 laptops with a nuvi 2460 - one running XP and the other Vista.
I find the latest version a significant improvement on earlier versions. My main use is for automotive navigation and I have >50,000 categorised POIs located in Europe loaded into BC an on the nuvi.
On the XP machine (as explained here http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=252104) I have loaded 50 'png' icons into c:\My Documents\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols and I can access these as described and assign then to the various waypoint categories.
I have been unable to repeat this on the Vista machine - I have tried a number of different directories, all without any success.
Has anyone been able to use this feature on a MS Vista machine and if so which directory did you use? (I'm not sure whether it should be c:\My Documents\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols or in a subdirectory of users ... AppData\ Roaming\Garmin or My Garmin)
I should perhaps point out that when I originally setup the Vista machine I created a D: virtual drive and used that to hold all my documents, i.e. when I installed BC I did not have a C:\My Documents directory. I have created one after BC installation and the c:\My Documents\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols is one of the directories I have tried.

jem

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

Has anyone been able to use this feature on a MS Vista machine and if so which directory did you use?

BTW you posted this in theMac forum!!! (Fixed)

Try

C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols

PS: Vista and Windows 7 do not use C:\Documents and Settings\ at all.

PPS: If you're looking for the All Users folder that's at

C:\ProgramData

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

BTW you posted this in theMac forum!!! (Fixed)

Try

C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols

PS: Vista and Windows 7 do not use C:\Documents and Settings\ at all.

PPS: If you're looking for the All Users folder that's at

C:\ProgramData

Mac Forum - I think not! This is posted as "Garmin Forums > Mac & Windows Software > Windows Software > BaseCamp > v.3.3.1 Custom Waypoint Icons" as shown at the top of the post.

Thank you for confirming the correct directory for Vista as "C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols" - but I've tried that and it doesn't work.

jem

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

Mac Forum - I think not!

It definitely was yesterday unless I'm crazy. Perhaps a moderator moved it.

... "C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols" - but I've tried that and it doesn't work.

Try

"C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols"

Unfortunately my Vista box is dead so I'm doing it from memory.

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

"C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols" - no luck with this either.

jem

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

Ok, I managed to boot my Vista box (no small feat--it's in pieces) and verified the path as

"C:\Users\<UserName>\Documents\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols"

I have 64 ..bmp icons in there that are recognized by BaseCamp and MapSource.

PS: Just in case it isn't obvious the <UserName> portion of the pathname is your Windows logon name.

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

Ok, I managed to boot my Vista box (no small feat--it's in pieces) and verified the path as

"C:\Users\<UserName>\Documents\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols"

I have 64 ..bmp icons in there that are recognized by BaseCamp and MapSource.

PS: Just in case it isn't obvious the <UserName> portion of the pathname is your Windows logon name.

Stuartmw - thanks for trying to help.

I now have the Custom Waypoint Symbols directory in 12 different locations - the directory contains 50 'png' files which work as they should on the XP machine, together with 3 'bmp' files with the same icons as the first 3 'png' files.

The 12 parent locations of the CWS files are as follows:

c:\users\jem\Documents\My Garmin\
c:\users\jem\Documents\Garmin\
c:\users\jem\AppData\Roaming\My Garmin\
c:\users\jem\AppData\Roaming\Garmin\
c:\ProgramData\GARMIN\
c:\ProgramData\My Garmin\
c:\My Documents\My Garmin
c:\My Documents\Garmin
c:\My Garmin
c:\Garmin
d:\My Garmin\
d:\Garmin\

As I hinted in the initial post, I suspect the problem could be related to the fact that when I first took delivery of the machine, I took the decision to partition a D: drive (on the physical C: drive) for documents. I wonder whether the developers made an assumption regarding the presence of a 'C:\My Documents' on Vista (& possibly Windows 7) machines, and/or coded in a system enviromental variable, which I may have changed, because of my decision.

Is it possible that the absence of a 'normal' configuration for 'Documents' and specifically when they are located on a D: drive, at the time of installation, could be at the heart of my problem?

jem

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

I wonder whether the developers made an assumption regarding the presence of a 'C:\My Documents' on Vista (& possibly Windows 7) machines, and/or coded in a system enviromental variable, which I may have changed, because of my decision.

Well if you did change the location of the "Documents" folder from the default to somewhere on the D drive then this entire discussion is mute.

If you don't know what you did try searching the C and D drives for "My Garmin" folders. BaseCamp should've created one somewhere with default custom waypoint icons.

PS: I've given up on repairing my Vista box. I do have Virtual PC's running Vista but they don't have any Garmin stuff installed on them.

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

Try to browse to "%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols" (without quotes, leave the %USERPROFILE%) in Windows File Explorer and see where you end up. That's where the waypoints need to go.

You can also check the registry at "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User
Shell Folders" under "Personal" to find out where the Documents path is.

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

Try to browse to "%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols" (without quotes, leave the %USERPROFILE%) in Windows File Explorer and see where you end up. That's where the waypoints need to go.

You can also check the registry at "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User
Shell Folders" under "Personal" to find out where the Documents path is.

Falagar - this is very helpful. Many thanks.

The Explorer search (not surprisingly) ends up at c:\jem\Documents\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols - one of the directories that I had populated with the waypoint icons. So no progress there.

However, checking the registry as you suggested, reveals the absence of an entry for the Documents path. (See attachment)

Success I think!

So I assume, as I eluded previously, Basecamp tries to use an environmental variable (this registry entry) to identify the directory for the default Custom Waypoint Symbols at installation. It would appear that if it isn't present, it does not halt the installation and alert the user. Is there an error/installation log produced and if so, would the problem be recorded there?

In order to address my problem, do I need to to add a entry in the registry for the Documents path or is there away I can avoid this?

Editing the Registry is out of my comfort zone, particularly as this is the only problem I have experienced.

jem

0 Former Member over 13 years ago

Well, the path is not absent, it's D:.

And you say it doesn't work if you put the waypoint files at

d:\My Garmin\Custom Waypoint Symbols?

Because I think that's where we look in your case. We ask Windows at run-time for the Documents path (which is most likely checking the registry) and then use that path to build the waypoint symbol path.