POIs, Waypoints, Via-Points, Shaping Points 101

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The concepts are quite simple. It's the method of distinguishing one from the other that is likely quite subtle in the code.

POI - A formal Point Of Interest. An entry in the internal POI database with a name, location and usually other information associated with it.

Waypoint - Any arbitrary point on the map that you have designated you want to keep track of. Usually stored in the "Favorites" or "My Locations" or whatever your personal navigation device calls its waypoint storage database. Your device will usually allow you to store such things as the location, any arbitrary name you want to supply and other information such as address, phone number, category(ies) and a symbol/icon to be used when displaying it.

Via Point - A point used to create a multipoint route, e.g. Go from Point A to Point B via some other arbitrary point(s) that you will designate. If your personal navigation device supports multipoint routing, the via point can be a POI, an existing waypoint/favorite or any other form of location that is searchable on your device, e.g. address, intersection/junction, custom POI, etc. In most cases, to use something as a via point it must already exist in one of the devices' searchable databases.

Shaping Point - In Mapsource, to "shape" a route to go exactly where you want there are a couple of methods. Just as with the personal navigation device, you can edit the route's properties to insert Via points (these are not shaping points although they do serve a similar purpose). You can also just use the route tool to click on spots on the map to force the shape of a route. When you do that, you are using a location that is not already in one of the searchable location databases. Mapsource does not force you to add these points to any of the formal databases. It simply inserts the actual coordinates invisibly into the route. These are shaping points.

Shaping points occur in another, automatic, fashion as well. Even when you only designate a two-point route, e.g. go from Point A to Point B, there will usually be multiple places, usually intersections, where a change in direction is required. When building the route, the personal navigation device (or Mapsource/Basecamp) will automatically include all of these points in the route.

To easily illustrate this, you can create a two-point route in Mapsource by clicking on a Point A and a Point B that will require a few turns to get from one to the other. Now export the route to a GPX file and take a look at it with Notepad or your favorite text editor. You will see that, in addition to the starting point and the ending point, there will be a bunch of other points <rtept> in the file to control all the turns.

I apologize if you already knew all that. Perhaps it will be helpful to others with inquiring minds. :)

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    I just made several waypoints "Do Not Alert" on a route in BaseCamp. The directions then showed the route through these points but without the "alert" at them. However, when I transferred this route to my Nuvi 2460 the points were back as "alert" points. So marking them as "Do Not Alert" in BaseCamp is a waste of time if the GPS device will not recognize them.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    I just made several waypoints "Do Not Alert" on a route in BaseCamp. The directions then showed the route through these points but without the "alert" at them. However, when I transferred this route to my Nuvi 2460 the points were back as "alert" points. So marking them as "Do Not Alert" in BaseCamp is a waste of time if the GPS device will not recognize them.
    Which GPS device families do not recognize the "do not alert" shaping points? My 755T seems to ignore them.
  • Every Garmin device except the zumo 340/350...
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    So, for the use it would be most useful, automotive gps, it is a useless feature of BaseCamp.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    I think the point of BaseCamp having that feature is that yet-to-be-released automotive models will support "shaping points".

    I've been using Garmin devices for over a decade. The whole routing issue (making routes follow a specific path, via/shaping points etc) has been debated for that whole time. All the points raised in this and other threads have been discussed many times over.

    My advice is always to find a model that does (mostly) what you want and stick with it. I don't assume that newer models are going to work "better" or even the same way.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    The "yet-to-be-releasded automotive models are here! I just purchased a Nuvi 2597LMT and tried loading a trip with shaping points form BaseCamp and it WORKED!!!!
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    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Thank for confirming.

    The problem is that until someone actually confirms stuff it is impossible to tell from Garmin's spec pages. So the 2597LMT has the "Trip Planner" right?

    PS: Garmin nüvi 2597LMT page. Yes it has the "Trip Planner" but I don't see anything about shaping point support.
  • The "yet-to-be-releasded automotive models are here! I just purchased a Nuvi 2597LMT and tried loading a trip with shaping points form BaseCamp and it WORKED!!!!


    Can you post a screenshot of the nüvi showing the full route on the map?
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    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Not sure how to post a screenshot. On the GPS device, the route on the map does not look any different. It is when you go to the "itinerary" where the stops and times of arrival are shown that you see a "dot" icon for the shaping point instead of a "flag". When you activate/start the route in the list of directions you do not have a stop at the shaping point. You are routed through it but the route segment ends at your next waypoint. Time and distance are given between the waypoints on either side of the shaping point.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Not sure how to post a screenshot.


    Easy. When you create a post there's a "Insert Image" icon above the text box. Some people manage to post actual images in a post but I don't know how to do that. The "Insert Image" feature only seems to insert a link to an image.

    A LOT of people would be happy to see this. As you probably know the lack of "shaping point" support has been a major complaint with "Trip Planner" models.