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Strange Waypoint Notations in Basecamp

Former Member over 9 years ago

I currently have 50 waypoints (saved places) and 28 routes stored in my nuvi 2789. I sent all this data to BaseCamp. If I look at this list of data in BaseCamp, all looks well. I see my 50 waypoints and my 28 routes.

When I highlight any one of my routes in BaseCamp, I see the route on the map. And when I double-click on one of the routes, the Route Properties Screen opens up for that route. The Properties Tab itself shows a list of what it calls Via Points. And that's where the data notation gets a little strange.

For example, I have only one Home waypoint. But BaseCamp assigns a number to this Home waypoint according to the route position in the route list. For the first route in my list, the Home Waypoint is called Home1; for the 2nd route it's called Home2; all the way out to the last route to or from my house, where it's called Home28.

Similarly, other waypoints that are repeated get assigned a number. For example, in the route from my house to my son Ron's house, his waypoint is called Ron's House1. Then for the route from his house to mine, his waypoint is called Ron's House 2. But I actually only have one waypoint for his house - Ron's House.

When I view any of my routes on the BaseCamp map, these sequential numbers do not appear, i.e., my Home waypoint is always shown as Home, and never Home1, Home2, Home3, etc.

Why is BaseCamp sequentially numbering the waypoints when they appear on the route Properties Screen? I wonder what purpose that serves? It's the same whether I view the data in "Data received from nuvi 2789" or in "My Collection".

Any ideas? Have other users experienced this notation scheme?

0 SUSSAMB over 9 years ago

That's normal. In BaseCamp waypoints cannot be named the same. So if you import multiple versions of home then they will have numbers appended.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

But the appended numbers only appear on the Properties Tab, never on the map or in the lists. So why is that?

0 SUSSAMB over 9 years ago

As I've said no two points can be named the same, so numbers will be appended in the actual route lists.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

As I've said no two points can be named the same, so numbers will be appended in the actual route lists.

But these are not two points named the same. They are the same point that I call Home. Any route taken from my house will start from this singular Home waypoint. The fact that Home appears in more than one route doesn't make it multiple points.

So I still don't understand why BaseCamp is doing this. What happens if I use BaseCamp to create another route that starts from Home, and then I send just this new route to my 2789? Will the Home waypoint in this new route now have a number appended to it when it appears on my nuvi?

Thanks for your patience.........

0 SUSSAMB over 9 years ago

But these are not two points named the same. They are the same point that I call Home. ..

Yes you know that but the software doesn't ... I'm afraid it is what it is. Something you have to live with. Unless you look into the detail you won't notice it anyway so it's really of no consequence.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

Hello Durango,

BaseCamp is designed to be used to create routes and then send them to whatever gps device.
So if BC is used first then your waypoint "Home" would be created once and then you would copy and paste it to any new routes you create that need a "Home" waypoint.
In your case you did the reverse by sending routes created in the device to BaseCamp.
BaseCamp stores all data in ONE large database (permanent folder) named "My Collection". There cannot be duplicate names of anything in My Collection. When BC encounters duplicate names it adds a number to each to make it NOT a duplicate. Even tho you have different folders and lists, all the data in them is also in My Collection. That is why you get 2 options when deleting items. Remove from folder or list only (leaves original in My Collection) or permanently delete.
To fix your "Home" problem open My Collection, find the Home waypoint with no number, copy it, open each route (double click) that needs a Home waypoint, scroll down to the old Home1, paste in the copied one and delete the one with a number. Then recalculate the route to make sure Home is in the list at the correct position.
When all routes are fixed open My Collection and delete all the Home waypoints with numbers.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

Don, you gave me a very thorough explanation that I now need to go away and digest........and I thank you for that.

The one thing I still don't understand (but maybe I will after digesting, lol) is the fact that My Collection only contains one waypoint for my house; it is called Home. In My Collection there is no Home1, Home2, etc. So why does BC think it is seeing duplicate waypoints? Is it because BC sees Home in more than one route?

Like I mentioned earlier, the Properties Tab for a route involving my house is the only place I see Home1, Home2,...,Home28 (since I have 28 routes to/from my house).

Thanks to you and sussamb for trying to educate me.

0 SUSSAMB over 9 years ago

Agreed, but also in the BaseCamp data are all the route points in your routes, and they have to have individual names too unless you do as Datazz describes.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

Hello Durango,

BaseCamp is designed to be used to create routes and then send them to whatever gps device.
So if BC is used first then your waypoint "Home" would be created once and then you would copy and paste it to any new routes you create that need a "Home" waypoint.
In your case you did the reverse by sending routes created in the device to BaseCamp.

Don, I have given a lot of thought to what you said in this posting, and I think I do understand how to correct my problem using copy/paste.

However, truth be told, I DID NOT create routes in my GPS device and send them to BC. I created my waypoints and routes in BC and then sent that data to my GPS. Then later when I was looking around in BC (Route Properties), I noticed that BC had assigned sequential numbers to those waypoints used in multiple routes (e.g., Home, Home1, Home2, etc). But in My Collection and on the map itself, there is only one Home.

So although you showed me how to correct my current messy situation, I still don't know why it happened.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

@durango,

This may confuse you even more but it might help illustrate what's happening under the covers.

- Create a new list under My Collection. Call it anything you want. Perhaps something creative like Routes. :-)
- Drag one of your routes that includes your home into the new list.
- Select the new list.

You should see the route AND the points it contains. This will include the home point with a number.

You should also now see the numbered home point show up in My Collection, along with any other points in the route that were not already listed there.

I'm not at my PC so I'm doing this off the top of my head. If this shows what I just described I'll explain why. If not I'll figure out where I got it wrong. Let me know if I got it right or not.

...ken...