BaseCamp - slow speed when used with EU cycle maps on Edge Touring

I am confused and need help about how to use the detailed EU cycling maps pre-loaded in my Edge Touring (and with all the updates done) with the BaseCamp software to plan cycling routes.

I have the Edge Touring plugged into a USB 3.0 port that will sustain real-world transfer speeds of at least 150 Mbit/s when transferring image files from PC to a USB HDD, so I think it is capable of reasonable speeds in itself. When I connect my Edge Touring to the same USB port to use the detailed cycling maps, it makes BaseCamp painfully slow and I get a message about the device being connected by a slow link and a warning that this will affect performance. I can't see any way to interrogate or change the communication speed with the connected device - when I used to use MapSource and an eTrex, there was a dialogue to select the communication speed and port etc. I don't have a clear model of what is normally meant to happen when you plug the Edge Touring into the PC - I assume it is not loading all of the map, which really would take ages, and instead it just loads the current map view from the attached device?

Is there a trick to getting BaseCamp to fully use the available USB speed to connect to the device holding the detailed maps? USB 3.0 is meant to be backward compatible with USB 2.0, but just in case I have tried the Edge Touring on a USB 2.0 port, and get exactly the same behaviour / warning. The problem occurs when you first load up BaseCamp and select the EU Cycling map on the device, and you get a task bar showing progress on loading the maps that takes maybe 10 minutes to complete, and then it all stalls again each time you scroll around the map after you have loaded up the initial view. The BaseCamp application is slow and unresponsive to the point it becomes unusable with the detailed maps held on the attached Edge Touring.

The PC is Windows 10.0 and has all the latest USB drivers etc. and works fine with good speeds with various HDDs, cameras, card readers and other USB devices. I get exactly the same BaseCamp behaviour on a 2015 MacBook Pro, so I don't think it is the PC that is the problem here.

The other option seems to be to create a copy of the detailed maps on the computer, but when you try to do this, the relevant button in BaseCamp is greyed-out and unresponsive, so this doesn't seem to be an option? There is discussion elsewhere here about a "known issue" with the greyed out button for different devices. There are also cryptic comments about creating a "virtual device" (whatever one of those is!) and putting a copy of the maps on that.

All I want is to be able to use the detailed maps in BaseCamp with the Edge Touring plugged in, so there is no problem with having the Edge Touring connected to the PC to prove that I have the original copies to hand etc. I just want to be able to use the maps I have paid for with reasonable load time and interactivity, either with the maps still on the Edge Touring or copied onto the PC. I can use other cycle route planning software, but then I am planning on a map that is different from the detailed cycling map on the Edge Touring, and that leads to local problems with subtly different data on where there are usable cycle tracks etc.

Thanks for any advice or pointers to any posts that may help. I am very much an end-user/consumer here, so saying things like "oh you just need to create a virtual copy of the map" doesn't really help me move forwards! My unreasonable expectation is to be able to plug my Edge Touring into my PC and then have the detailed cycling maps available for route planning on the PC.
  • The issue is the Edge Touring's USB ability, not your PC's USB speed. Unfortunately the Edge Touring is not USB 3.0 :)

    I've never used the map you mention, but do use Garmin and OSM maps installed on some of my Garmin devices, and find the best way to cope is to ensure detail is set to Medium in BaseCamp when panning any great distances. Doing so enables BC to work at a perfectly acceptable speed, with detail set to Highest it is far slower.

    As for virtual drives, that is one way to go. The other is to load maps to a USB stick or sd card that is plugged directly into your PC so that BaseCamp reads the maps from that. More info on virtual drives is here

    http://www.javawa.nl/virtualdevice.html

    should you wish to go down that route.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    Some current Garmin hand helds (eTrex 10, 20x and 30x) still have the USB 1 speed. Some nasty piece of work at Garmin thinks it's a great idea to impose slow data rates on customers who do not spend enough to get to USB 2 which came out in 2000.
  • CHanging the resolution before you load the map up fixes this

    ** I've never used the map you mention, but do use Garmin and OSM maps installed on some of my Garmin devices, and find the best way to cope is to ensure detail is set to Medium in BaseCamp when panning any great distances. Doing so enables BC to work at a perfectly acceptable speed, with detail set to Highest it is far slower.**

    Thanks very much for this pointer. My mistake had been to have the proverbial cup of coffee while waiting for Base Camp to initially load up the cycling map when the application launched with the Edge Touring attached. Instead, if I open Base Camp, immediately switch the detail to "lowest" and then abort and (re-)load the map, things are much better as you say. It still says that "The device containing Garmin Cycle Map EU 2016.10 is connected with limited speed. This may affect the performance of Base Camp" but it actually works much better.

    The useful extra bits of the Garmin Cycle Map EU 2016.10 mapping for cyclists are the off-road cycle paths and trails, and they are still there when you are zoomed in even at the "Lowest" detail setting. In fact there is very little difference between what you see on the map between the "Lowest" and "Highest" settings when zoomed in, but there is a big impact on loading time and panning / interactivity.

    Anyway thanks very much for this help, which has finally brought Base Camp to life as a usable route planning tool.