BaseCamp 3.3.0.1 Beta: Waypoint categories are not working

Has anyone been able to make Categories work with Favorites on a zumo 660?

I have tried creating categories on the zumo and then "receive from Device and no such info appears in the waypoint details box, just list names.

Thanks,

-dan

Isn't that the way Categories are being handled: List = Category = List?

You created a new Category for your waypoint on the zumo. You should have seen a new List with that waypoint after you transferred your data from the zumo. ???

Cheers,

Isn't that the way Categories are being handled: List = Category = List?

You created a new Category for your waypoint on the zumo. You should have seen a new List with that waypoint after you transferred your data from the zumo. ???

Cheers,

I wasn't clear. I created a new category called "Friends" on my zumo. I then used Receive from Device, which starts a new list called something like "Recently read from zumo 660" and in it are all my waypoints. Nowhere is there any reference to a category called Friends, including in the info box you can open with a waypoint selected by using Apple-I.

That box has a panel called "Lists/Categories" which does show all Lists in which the selected waypoint exists, but I cannot add or find any Category info in it.

-dan

I'm beginning to suspect that the categories feature may be of limited use for any but the newest units. I'll do some checking with my chartplotters soon, but my initial experience with waypoints created in MapSource which have identical categories as the GPS units is not positive. Importing one of my archived waypoint files results in no category data being imported. Only waypoints created in BaseCamp and included in lists appear to have any category data. I'd hoped for full rearward and cross platform support.

Here is what is sent to the GPS:



I don't think I have any old Waypoints that had categories assigned. If you have one post it and we can compare the XML that BaseCamp is using vs. what the older GPS's (GPSMAP units and zumo 66x).

If I recall from a previous issue, Garmin has shifted to a different XLM deff for Extensions.

Cheers,

Categories, cont.,

Categories is not working from GPS to BaseCamp.



I created the Waypoint above and [categories] Lists which I transferred to my GPS. I then edited the Waypoint.gpx file on the GPS (my Montana doesn't yet support Categories) to include a new "category" called Starbucks (some Safeways have Starbucks).

<wpt lat="47.841802211478353" lon="-120.01960398629308">
<time>2011-10-28T16:44:11Z</time>

<name>Safeway</name>

<sym>Shopping Center</sym>

<extensions>
<wptx1:WaypointExtension>
<wptx1:DisplayMode>SymbolAndName</wptx1:DisplayMode>

<wptx1:Categories>
<wptx1:Category>TEMP</wptx1:Category>

<wptx1:Category>Gas</wptx1:Category>

<wptx1:Category>Eat</wptx1:Category>

<wptx1:Category>Food</wptx1:Category>

<wptx1:Category>Starbucks</wptx1:Category>
</wptx1:Categories>
</wptx1:WaypointExtension>
</extensions>
</wpt>


So, when I transferred the Waypoint.gpx above back to BaseCamp, my expectation was that BaseCamp would create the following Lists/Categories:

• TEMP
  
• Gas
  
• Eat
  
• Food
  
• Starbucks
  

Instead no list other than the usual: Recently read from ...



BaseCamp just ignored the existing Categories in the waypoint.gpx file it read above.

Cheers,

I wasn't clear. I created a new category called "Friends" on my zumo. I then used Receive from Device, which starts a new list called something like "Recently read from zumo 660" and in it are all my waypoints. Nowhere is there any reference to a category called Friends, including in the info box you can open with a waypoint selected by using Apple-I.

That box has a panel called "Lists/Categories" which does show all Lists in which the selected waypoint exists, but I cannot add or find any Category info in it.

-dan

Do you get categories in the received waypoint if you drag/drop it from the device to My Collection? For a thorough test, you may want to delete the copy you previously received from My Collection first.

BaseCamp just ignored the existing Categories in the waypoint.gpx file it read above.

Cheers,

This is the same behavior I experienced with both .gpx and .gdb file imports from MapSource created files.

Re: Categories

This is very weird. I've tried the same process 3 times with the same results. I hope I can explain it so it makes sense.

MacBook Air running OS 10.6.8, latest BaseCamp beta.
GPSmap 478 current firmware.

In order to test the functionality of the new category feature with my units I created a List Folder titled "Category Test" and created 3 lists, "Lodging", "Temp", and "Avoid". I then picked a waypoint from an unrelated list called "Backroads" and copied it to the three test lists. Examination of the waypoint properties showed the expected behavior in the categories window. Note. The "Basic Waypoint" inclusion is unnecessary and unwanted IMO, I'd be removing them all manually. I then connected my GPS that contained a basic categorized waypoint list and examined the (GPS) waypoints shown in BaseCamp. No category data. I then tried a drag/drop of the waypoint in the one of the test lists to the GPS. It transferred, but the category data appeared to be missing. I then disconnected the GPS, deleted all of the internal waypoints, deleted all of the internal waypoint categories, and powered off the unit. Powered on and re-connected the GPS. Now it gets a bit strange.

Both BaseCamp and the GPS now showed a clean slate, no waypoints. The GPS had only one waypoint category "Unfiled". Drag/Drop resulted in a transfer of the waypoint to the GPS. The waypoint properties window in the GPS shows a category of "Italy"..... Now "Italy" was one of the categories on the GPS that I'd deleted, about 1/2 way through the list. I checked, all of my waypoint categories are back in the GPS. Delete all categories again, power off unit, repeat drag/drop. Same behavior.

The third time I erased everything on the GPS (disconnected from BaseCamp) powered the unit off for 5 minutes and restarted. I exited BaseCamp, re-booted the computer, and launched BaseCamp. Only then did I re-connect the GPS. Same behavior.

Ponderings.

Where the *^%% did BaseCamp get the original waypoint category list to re-install.

If BaseCamp has this ability, writing categories to the GPS shouldn't be a problem. This would be a very good thing.

Examining the waypoint uploaded to the GPS from within BaseCamp showed the expected categories, Lodging, Temp and Avoid, as well as the original list it was copied from (unexpected that). Italy was no where to be seen.

Editing the waypoint category in the GPS had the same results Dan documented. Nada.

I noticed that the categories are listed in the properties window in alphabetical order, not the order of the lists.

OK, that's all for now. My brain hurts. :confused:

Edited to add.
I tried the process with both a drag/drop, context menu (right click on item_send to device) and Menu_Transfer_Send to Device. Same results.

Waypoint categories are indeed not working correctly in 3.3.0.1. You should be able to get the categories to the device, but reading them from the device does not work. This should be fixed in the next release.