BaseCamp v2.1.2: Small Trails do not show up

Former Member
Former Member
Hello,

After updating to BaseCamp 2.1.2 on my Mac small trails and unpaved roads are no more visible in BaseCamp. I use the topographic map Topo Schweiz v2 (aka Swissmap).

I'm pretty shure that these trails where visible in previous versions of BaseCamp as I have some stored routes which still use the same trails if they are recalculated. Also new routes still use invisible trails when calculating the route.

Increasing the level of detail in the map does not reveal the trails.

Greetings, Beat
  • I think other people are reporting the same thing with other maps. I can confirm what you're seeing though, I have Topo Suisse v2 and I can't see the trails very well either. I have Topo Suisse v1 installed which is displaying fine though.

    They're barely visible on the 550t screen either.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Do you remember as of which version this problem appeared? Do you have a n Intel machine running Leopard or later and have you tried BaseCamp 3.x

    Since I still have a PowerPC mac I'm not able to upgrade. It's anyway a stupidity to stop support for older Macs or OS-X. There is really no reason to support only newer versions of OS-X
  • I have an intel macbook pro and run basecamp 3.

    It's fair enough for Garmin to stop supporting powerpc, if Apple aren't supporting it since Snow Leopard then you can't expect third parties to support it really.
  • I can report the same problem with german topo 3 map. Small trails arent't shown any more.

    MacBook with 2.4 GHz Intel, 2 GB RAM, MacOS X 10.6.3
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    I have an intel macbook pro and run basecamp 3.

    It's fair enough for Garmin to stop supporting powerpc, if Apple aren't supporting it since Snow Leopard then you can't expect third parties to support it really.



    Apple still supports Leopard and PPC with system Updates.
    I understand that new features like Birds Eye View will not be added to PPC. But I think maintenance upgrades should continue. Apple has supported older systems with maintenance updates for 10 years after the hardware was out of production. Most third parties do not support that long, but close.

    I don't know what Garmin's policy is going to be with this. I am certainly thankful for the BaseCamp 2.1.2 version. It does work better on my PPC 1.67 Powerbook. It's still a very useful machine, one of the very last ones before the Intel conversion. I've seen some of the early Intel machines and I like this one better, although the latest Intel machines have some definite advantages.
  • Apple still supports Leopard and PPC with system Updates.


    it's security updates only really.

    I'd rather Garmin be shipping pure Intel binaries personally. If Apple aren't supporting PowerPC, and they aren't that's why Snow Leopard is Intel only, then I'd not expect Garmin to be shipping new products on it either. So if for example Apple aren't going to ship a new version of iTunes for PPC then you can't expect Garmin to ship a new version of Basecamp.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Apple still supports it's applications on PowerPC. I'm still getting updates... Yesterday I updated to iTunes 9.1...

    It's fair to stop supporting old hardware in the OS. But this can not be compared to applications. For most applications it's just the change of a flag in the compiler because they not really require new features.
  • For most applications it's just the change of a flag in the compiler because they not really require new features.


    Not really most applications, if you're building a one line C program to print "hello world" then life just might be that simple. But the real world just isn't quite like that, modern software exists in complex frameworks requiring support from a myriad of external dependencies. You need to manage all of those and to support that old architecture you need to commit to never use a feature that's not supported in the old architecture.

    It wasn't a few weeks or months ago that PPC stopped being shipped, it was years. I think Garmin would be rightly getting a lot of stick from anyone that had reasonably current hardware if they weren't using that hardware.

    The original post here was about Topo Suisse, in Switzerland take a look at how utterly awful the SwissTopo SwissMap product is. Written in a Macromedia toolkit for PPC it's a utter dog on Intel, it's been years and they've not got their act in gear enough to support the current hardware. Not that it's any better on Windows of course :mad:

    Actively developed software, taking advantage of new feature and increased processor power, is likely to leave older architectures behind, that's just the way it is.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Of course. I agree partially with you. But: which of those new features is the reason for the problem with the missing trails?
  • Actively developed software, taking advantage of new feature and increased processor power, is likely to leave older architectures behind, that's just the way it is.


    Very well stated.