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Things that I cannot accomplish in Mac BaseCamp

azdrmn
over 15 years ago
We are very interested in learning about tasks that people are trying to accomplish in BaseCamp, but are unable to.

As most people know, Garmin originally had a very technical application for Windows called MapSource. This application was full-featured, but very challenging to use for many users. For a long time, we wanted to create an application that was easy to use by all of our customers.

When we started designing our route planning application for the Mac, we wanted to start with a good looking, intuitive user interface that all customers could pick up and understand. This includes the soccer mom that is planning her car pool route to the hard core bicyclist that is creating a trail map. As with all re-architecture efforts, every feature from MapSource did not port right over in the first versions of BaseCamp.

So we are asking people to tell us what they are trying to accomplish with BaseCamp and are unable to.
  • 0 over 15 years ago
    Is it possible to have the lists automatically alphabetize themselves? I have trouble keeping my unruly lists in line :).

    Currently...no, but that is a good suggestion. We'll put in on our wish list.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Status on BASECAMP lockups needed

    Originally Posted by GIZMO-XL
    We really need to get the software to import correctly in the Zumo 660 so the unit does not lockup every time you transfer your routes. There is no good reason we should have to use RoadTrip to get our BaseCamp routes into the Zumo 660.


    This issue may have something to do with the amount of data already on your device. We can see how transferring would be significantly slower for devices with lots of routes on them already, but not interminably so. Either way, it's something we hope to address in the future, but how long have you tried waiting? With the amount of routes and other data on the Zumo 660s in our office, newly transferred data imports pretty quickly (within seconds).

    Could you (or anyone with this issue) post the current.gpx file on your Zumo 660? You may need to compress it to .zip to get it small enough for e-mailing/posting. Generally it's located in Garmin/GPX/current or Garmin/GPX. Feel free to PM it to me or just e-mail it to [email][email protected][/email] if you'd rather not post it in a public forum.

    As a temporary measure, removing the routes already on your Zumo before you connect it to your computer could improve the speed with which your Zumo boots and reads in new data after a transfer.


    I will send you a route tonight... This happens with no routes already loaded on the unit or in Mydata. It happens when importing 1 route or many routes from Mydata. I have waited for 15 min while the unit does nothing but look like it is locked up. When I reset/turn the power off and turn it back on I can go and see that my route was imported.... But it locks up everytime. :(


    In respect to the above, none of my routes will import correctly into the 660. They all SEND to the 660 okay but they all hang and lock the device up when importing from the "My Data" section. The one route will be imported after a reboot but import, lockup, reboot is not a fun procedure. I have already submitted a route and a similar issue was found. This may be an issue with the 660 SW but RoadTrip will send the route directly into my "Routes" area without the need for an import. BaseCamp will do it every now and then but most of the time it doesn't. Such a pain and not what one should have to deal with on this device.


    I have emailed you the GPX file if you have any questions please let me know. Also FYI these routes have been created with NT 2010.4 maps in the BaseCamp Version 3.0.1.0 Release

    Zumo 660 Info:
    Software V3.50
    GPS: 2.90
    DSP:2.20
    Text: 3.50
    Voice: 2.30


    My question is what is the status of this issue based on the information that has been provided to your development team? Have you found this to be something that will be corrected in the next release of the software?
  • 0 over 15 years ago
    Currently...no, but that is a good suggestion. We'll put in on our wish list.


    only as an option I would hope :) The fact the lists don't automatically sort in alphabetic order is the only thing that makes it possible sensibly order them in a logical way.

    Personally, I'd find hierarchical lists more useful, it would mirror the way I organize trips, a hierarchy for each trip so could have sub-lists for refuges, routes, waymarks and so on.
  • 0 over 15 years ago
    only as an option I would hope :) The fact the lists don't automatically sort in alphabetic order is the only thing that makes it possible sensibly order them in a logical way.

    Personally, I'd find hierarchical lists more useful, it would mirror the way I organize trips, a hierarchy for each trip so could have sub-lists for refuges, routes, waymarks and so on.

    I agree the manual sort is much more important than a alpha sort. Alpha sorts require you to remember your list name and you really need a naming scheme. If an optional sort is added please retain the manual order users had before selecting the sort. Other wise selection a alpha sort option would erase the manually created ordered.

    Not sure how you could sort on a hierarchical name list. If you mean sub-list to be expansion triangles like google earth or sub-folders like iPhoto for organizational purposes I agree totally. In fact that is probable at the top of my list.
  • 0 over 15 years ago
    If you mean sub-list to be expansion triangles like google earth or sub-folders like iPhoto for organizational purposes I agree totally. In fact that is probable at the top of my list.


    that's exactly what I meant. At first the lists seems a real pain, and there's still some real issues with waypoint naming and garbage in the collection, but it's something that can be used quite effectively if you work with it.
  • 0 over 15 years ago
    only as an option I would hope :)
    Personally, I'd find hierarchical lists more useful, it would mirror the way I organize trips, a hierarchy for each trip so could have sub-lists for refuges, routes, waymarks and so on.


    Yes any sorting would be an option. I definitely agree that the ability to arrange the folders like you want works for most people. We are looking into sublists for a future version. We recognize that as people get more and more data into BaseCamp that a flat collection of lists can become unmanageable.
  • 0 over 15 years ago
    Adding and Enhancing Tracks (Trails)

    My large majority uses for BaseCamp and the Oregon 400t are long-distance cycling and backpacking. For backpacking, I create Tracks to follow on the ground. When I'm there, I find trails that are color coded (e.g., red, blue, yellow, white), and trails that aren't in the topo details. I would like to color code (or tag with note) existing trails, and add and color code new trails in my database and then upload them to the Oregon 400t so that I have them on subsequent outings.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Routability

    I was really surprised to learn (thanks forum members) that Basecamp's route-ability is dependent upon the mapsets used. I purchased the US Topo100 maps and the features info says: " Includes BaseCampTm computer software that lets you plan trips on your computer and transfer waypoints, routes and tracks between your computer and your Garmin device." That really sounds like you can plot a route and transfer it to the GPS, especially when the other features tout the various roadtyeps that are included. So, my "things I want to do" list begins with using BaseCamp to auto-route routes, then modify them manually, and then put them on the GPS. Thanks for your time!
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    I was really surprised to learn (thanks forum members) that Basecamp's route-ability is dependent upon the mapsets used.


    In that case, you really should have done some minimal research before purchasing. It is widely known that the US Topo maps are not routable and has been discussed at great length on virtually every forum that covers Garmin products going back many, many years.

    If the map itself doesn't contain routing data, a program like BaseCamp or Mapsource can't do anything about it. You need to select the correct product to meet your needs. Garmin's 24k topo maps are routable.

    But you *can* plot routes in BaseCamp using any map. They will just consist of straight lines connecting each waypoint (aka via) that you insert.
  • 0 over 15 years ago
    The BaseCamp Developers have little or no control over map packaging but I think Garmin should note on all map product weather or not the maps contains routable information in the same area they show coverage on the product label.

    Just my opinion but I think everyone needs City Navigator maps. City Navigator is just about free with a nuvi and Garmin will send you a DVD for BaseCamp if you register your nuvi call support and send them $10 for shipping. A nuvi is a much better car device than a Dakota or Oregon for in car use just as the Dakota or Oregon is a much better device for hiking. City Navigator contains millions of addresses and POI. The good part is with BaseCamp, any routes drawn using
    BaseCamp and City navigator will show on US Topo as true routes when you switch maps.