Virb Edit 4.1.0 CPU usage is ridiculus!! this must be fixed

I updated Virb Edit couple days ago, and since then, there is this ridiculous "optimization" thing that consumes incredible amounts of time, but the worst is that editing a video is next to impossible now. With optimized videos (or not, happens to both), just by hoovering the mouse over the video causes the cpu to go to 100% for several minutes at a time, sometimes 1 or 2 minutes other times more than 10 minutes.

This also happens every time I use "SPLIT" or I click on the TRANSITIONS and every click I have to wait minutes and minutes and minutes for the CPU to calm down, because Virb Edit is unresponsive while this happens.
Unresponsive is not about windows complaining this application is not responding anymore, it's Virb Edit that is just doing something that consume the entire CPU, takes immense amount of time and I cannot do anything with it until it's finished.

I already uninstalled and reinstalled and did not change anything. I am currently TRYING to do a video composed of several video files recorded in different bicycle rides and I just noticed that I barely did any progress at all and I been working on this for more than 4 days now ... On the older versions, pre-dual camera support versions, this did not happen, used to take me no more than 30mnts to edit a video from start to finish and ready to export.

please see the screenshot I took:
http://i.imgur.com/uPdlqHa.png

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

What kind of PC do you have? CPU and graphics card?

You can try to switch the video decoder to see if it's better with a different decoder. You can change the decoder VIRB Edit uses under settings.

With VIRB Edit 4.2 we added a new DXVA decoder that should work very well for non-dedicated graphic cards (like they are commonly found in most laptops).

0 RuiTerrinha over 8 years ago

What kind of PC do you have? CPU and graphics card?

You can try to switch the video decoder to see if it's better with a different decoder. You can change the decoder VIRB Edit uses under settings.

With VIRB Edit 4.2 we added a new DXVA decoder that should work very well for non-dedicated graphic cards (like they are commonly found in most laptops).

I have a intel i7 6700k with Hyper threading off, 8Gb RAM and the storage is a SSD.Video card is a Nvidia GeForce GTX 780, latest drivers, the encoder I am using is the FFMPEG, I cannot try the other encoder (media encoder) because of the 4Gb file size limitation, all my videos are bigger than 4Gb.

I just updated to Virb 4.2.1.0 and for the decoder I switched to the DXVA.
I loaded my video and just by moving the mouse around the video bar in the bottom caused the same effect again...

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

I have the same problem, i.e., CPU usage is always 100% for more than 24 hours creating video which is 1 hour 15 mins.

Virb version: 4.2.1
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.14393 Build 14393
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Adapter Type GeForce GT 440, NVIDIA compatible
Adapter RAM 1.00 GB (1,073,741,824 bytes)

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

We recently switched the default decoder to be ffmpeg, which only uses your CPU, not graphics hardware, but is much more stable and much faster in many cases. This probably explains the increased CPU usage. However, on some machines this may not be the optimal configuration. If you find that VirbEdit is significantly slower in 4.x than in older versions, experiment with the decoder settings in Menu->Settings->Media. We've attempted to provide several options that work well across many different hardware configurations.

Decoder settings affect playback and export speeds, encoder settings only affect export

0 DickyDck over 8 years ago

Setting definition

Can you explain which setting does what?

Video Decoder
FFMPEG

Media Foundation

DXVA

Video Encoder

ffmpeg

media foundation

If I know what each one specializes in doing, I can better setup for my computer, thanks!

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

We recently switched the default decoder to be ffmpeg, which only uses your CPU, not graphics hardware, but is much more stable and much faster in many cases. This probably explains the increased CPU usage. However, on some machines this may not be the optimal configuration. If you find that VirbEdit is significantly slower in 4.x than in older versions, experiment with the decoder settings in Menu->Settings->Media. We've attempted to provide several options that work well across many different hardware configurations.

Decoder settings affect playback and export speeds, encoder settings only affect export

After updated Virb Edit to 4.2.2 and switching encoder and decoder to media foundation, this is what happened as below:
- CPU usage around 90 plus %
- Video export processing is much faster. Probably 4 times faster.
- Video exported as .MP4 file is 4 times larger compare to ffmpeg encoder/decoder

Thank you very much for this media foundation as i don't mind larger files. Keep it that way please till you can find a better way than current method. It would be good if you could include some useful notes on the type used as non technical persons would not understand ffmpeg or media foundation. Layman terms like Fast but large file (Media foundation), Slow but small file (ffmpeg) would be more meaningful to us. And you can put ffmpeg in brackets.

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

After updated Virb Edit to 4.2.2 and switching encoder and decoder to media foundation, this is what happened as below:
- CPU usage around 90 plus %
- Video export processing is much faster. Probably 4 times faster.
- Video exported as .MP4 file is 4 times larger compare to ffmpeg encoder/decoder

Thank you very much for this media foundation as i don't mind larger files. Keep it that way please till you can find a better way than current method. It would be good if you could include some useful notes on the type used as non technical persons would not understand ffmpeg or media foundation. Layman terms like Fast but large file (Media foundation), Slow but small file (ffmpeg) would be more meaningful to us. And you can put ffmpeg in brackets.

Non-technical persons = ME. I have very limited knowledge and limited time to learn such things. I'm new to the Virb world, and I thought I'd try exporting a recent video today. It's 5 minutes of footage, I want decent quality so went for the higher end of processing - my vid is only 1080 and 60 fps, basically it was estimated to be just under 1 GB when done at the highest available quality. It's at 50% complete and >2 hours in, I've just cancelled the process as that is F*kcing ridiculous as far as I'm concerned. Way to go Garmin. My PC is Win 7 (refuse to move to 10 - I've seen too many problems elsewhere), 1Gb graphics card and 6 Gb Ram. Couple of chrome tabs open, sod all else running and VIRB edit is chewing through 100% CPU. How is that supposed to help anyone buy into the whole garmin world?

I'll have a play around but this isn't acceptable.

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

It would be good if you could include some useful notes on the type used as non technical persons would not understand ffmpeg or media foundation.

Check out https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?342589-Picking-encoder-decoder-technology for a comparison of the different deocding and encoding technologies.

We're planning on improving user experience in this regard in the future since it is clearly a source of confusion / frustration for many people.

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

it was estimated to be just under 1 GB when done at the highest available quality

@uberdude76
Unless you edit videos professionally, you are not likely to be able to see the difference between max and medium quality, but selecting higher quality settings will increase the time it takes to export a few times over on some computers. Give medium quality a try

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

@uberdude76
Unless you edit videos professionally, you are not likely to be able to see the difference between max and medium quality, but selecting higher quality settings will increase the time it takes to export a few times over on some computers. Give medium quality a try

Thanks for that, I just assumed the higher quality selected will give me the best video, I mean what's the point waiting 2 days for a video to process and it's in a much lower quality than you expected!?

Anyhow, on a side note, I've updated my Radeon HD5450 driver and now Virb Edit no longer plays the video, with the message to update my driver! I've swapped enconder / decoder settings and still nothing. They play ok ish on VLC but everything else is a massive fail (quick time / windows media player etc)

I'm getting a little more than frustrated with this feeling I need to be super techy just to get the damn software to work normally.....HELP?!!

EDIT: Installed a beta version from AMD, seems to be working (not perfectly) but slightly better than before...I just find it hard to believe a fairly simple interface such as VIRB Edit can use so much processing power..