CHIEF TRIP's Wish List

Former Member
Former Member
Neo,

For the past 8 years of full-time cruising I have used Blue Chart (on my computer) to create my routes and establish waypoints to aide in navigation or to be used as permanent references (such as marking the anchorages I use or denoting dangerous places or other places of significance). Having used that program for so long a time and in creating hundreds of routes with it, it is only natural for me to compere it to Garmin's new HomePort navigation program. So far I have found a few very interesting and useful additions to HomePort that were not included in Blue Chart, such as the on screen Tide Tables and the incorporation of Google Earth into the maps section. There are a few things that I would like to have included (or excluded) in later versions of the program that would make it more user friendly. My "wish list," and an explanation of those wishes is included below.

1.Map Movement: During the creation of a route it is often necessary to scroll quite a few miles across the chart to add a new route segment. HomePort allows several ways to do this (use the scroll arrow, move the "box" in the lower right corner of the screen, or move the cursor to the edge of the screen until the "arrow" appears), but all of those involve redirecting the cursor away from the route that I am creating and additional taps of the mouse. PLEASE CONSIDER HAVING THE "CURSOR" AUTOMATICALLY SCROLL THE MAP PAGE WHEN IT REACHES THE EDGE OF THE PAGE.

2. Get rid of the "Information Bubbles": The "Information Bubbles" (The white "bubble" that has my boat name, fuel used, distance, etc) that automatically appear quite often, serve no useful purpose when creating a route, in fact they often pop up on the screen and block my view of the area of chart that I need to see while creating the route. When this happens, I have to "X" out the bubble in order to continue creating the route. PLEASE CONSIDER A "USER OPTION" THAT WOULD STOP THE INFORMATION BUBBLES FROM BEING SHOWN. That would allow users who like them to continue seeing them and users who find them very annoying (like ME) to get rid of them. The function that allows the user to place the cursor on a "nav aide" and get useful information about it, is a good feature.

3. Allow routes to "continue" After leaving and then returning to the map page: While creating a route, I moved my cursor off of the map and "clicked" an option at the top of the page in the tool bar. When I returned the cursor to the map in an effort to continue with the creation of the route, the route had been stopped. I was unable to continue the route to my destination even though I had NOT pressed the "ESC" key to complete the route. I had to create a second route to my destination and join them (See 4. below) PLEASE CONSIDER HAVING THE "ROUTE TOOL" PICK BACK UP A FROM WHERE IT LEFT OFF, WHEN THE CURSOR IS MOVED OFF THE MAP PAGE, ANOTHER FUNCTION IS SELECTED, AND THEN THE CURSOR IS RETURNED TO THE PAGE. The "Escape" function should be the only way to finalize a route that is being drawn.

4. The "Join Routes" function needs work: (See 3 above) When using the the function that joins routes, the program joined the last route segment of Route 2 to the first segment of Route 1, instead of joining the last route segment of Route 1 to the first segment of Route 2.

5. Unprompted change in "zoom level": Several times during the creation of a route, using the Route Tool, the zoom level of the map screen I was using changed. It zoomed down to a level that was unacceptable for the task at hand. I had to manually change the zoom level back to the value that I needed. This was unprompted. The cursor used to create the route segment was no where near the slide that is used to change zoom levels.

Thanks for allowing me to give this imput and for your consideration,

Chief Trip
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Chief Trip,

    We are glad to hear that you find HomePort useful for your trip planning. We also appreciate your suggestions.

    #1. We've tried as much as possible to not change the screen view unless the user explicitly tells the software to do it or if the user performs an action that implicitly requires the software to change the screen view. The issue is that although it sounds very reasonable in your use case, another user might find it confusing if the map moved automatically underneath her. Similar to the issue you mentioned in #5.

    #2. I like your suggestion.

    #3. The way the route tool was designed is to retain tool selection until the user selects a different tool or if the user selects an action that implicitly requires the software to stop the route (like changing your selection from My Collection to a device). If you are in the middle of a route creation and you perform an action that doesn't require the stopping of the route, like performing a find, or moving the cursor away from the map, or changing Tools-Options etc etc, it should retain your tool selection. Let me know if you are noticing a different behavior.

    #4. We are aware of that issue. As a user I would think that if I select two routes, the tool would have the smarts to know that since I selected route A first, I want that to be the start of the joined route. That tool isn't quite that smart yet.

    #5. If you can provide any further details on what you were doing when the zoom changed without prompting, that would be helpful. As you explained it, it does sound like odd behavior and we will investigate it.

    Again, your descriptions of the issues and constructive suggestions are greatly appreciated.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Thanks

    Neo,

    Thanks for your reply. I just tried to duplicate the "non-prompted" zoom level change while creating several dummy routes, but I was unable to duplicate the problem. Maybe it was a one time occurrence.......

    Thanks again,

    Chief Trip
  • Neo,

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    4. The "Join Routes" function needs work: (See 3 above) When using the the function that joins routes, the program joined the last route segment of Route 2 to the first segment of Route 1, instead of joining the last route segment of Route 1 to the first segment of Route 2.


    I'm not sure you are saying what I think you are saying, but I was having a hard time joining two routes together until I realized that after selecting "join routes", a box pops up listing the routes and there is an option to rearrange them so the first route is first, second route is second, etc.

    I rearranged my routes and they joined perfectly.
  • Neo,
    2. Get rid of the "Information Bubbles": The "Information Bubbles" (The white "bubble" that has my boat name, fuel used, distance, etc) that automatically appear quite often, serve no useful purpose when creating a route, in fact they often pop up on the screen and block my view of the area of chart that I need to see while creating the route. When this happens, I have to "X" out the bubble in order to continue creating the route. PLEASE CONSIDER A "USER OPTION" THAT WOULD STOP THE INFORMATION BUBBLES FROM BEING SHOWN. That would allow users who like them to continue seeing them and users who find them very annoying (like ME) to get rid of them.


    I second that suggestion and would also like to be able to hide the crosshairs, which I find anoying.
  • My biggest wishes would be to get rid of the "anchor" symbol that appears with every change in course or "turn". When zoomed out, these symbols block much of the map.

    Along with that, I sometimes end up with actual "waypoints" accidentally when creating a route with the mouse. There's no provision to delete these waypoints other than deleting the route, then the waypoints, and starting over.

    Thanks for your consideration.
  • Don't forget SORTING and FILTERING of the waypoint, routes ad track lists!! Also sorting and filtering options on all the data points of a track (like the ability to sort a tracks points by Temp, Depth, Date/Time....). ;)

    Oh, and a FULL SCREEN Chart view button, which hides all the detail boxes and lists, just let me easily see a chart view without having to drag all the box borders out of the way....
  • The Plot Thickens:

    Today I took my routes to my boat and uploaded them (some changed and some new) to my 5208.

    As I have mentioned before, routes created in MapSource show flags at each turn in MapSource but turn to small dots when imported into HomePort. Routes created in HomePort have anchor symbols at the turns (I am using the term "turn" instead of "waypoint" so as not to confuse places where a route changes course with waypoints created to mark a marina, fishing spot, etc.)

    When I uploaded the routes to the 5208, the routes created in MapSource had small squares everywhere there was a turn, but the ones created in HomePort had fish symbols! :confused:

    The Plot Thickens Some More:

    Just for kicks, I erased a card, then loaded the routes from the 5208 to the card and brought it home and loaded them into HomePort. The "turns" have now changed to dots. :eek:

    (This process also changed the route names from proper case to all upper case and truncated the longer names).

    So - I can get rid of the anchors by creating the routes, uploading them to the 5208, and then downloading them from the 5208 back into HomePort. Not ideal, but a workaround.

    BTW: My 5208 allows a maximum of 250 waypoints per route. Two of my routes were longer than that and the 5208 truncated them. Of course, the workaround for that is to break them up into smaller routes. MapSource shows how many waypoints are in a route so it's not difficult to break them up. HomePort does not seem to show the number of waypoints in a route. If it does, I haven't found how to do it.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Not to hijack a thread but

    It really would be useful to be able to print waypoint lists and other detailed information about routes from HP. Nice to have aboard in the very unlikely case that the CP fails.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    Waypoint data

    I agree .... it would be nice if you could see all the data associated with all the waypoints in the window to the left of tha map. Like it is in MS.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 14 years ago
    Saving GPS Maps to HP

    Neo,

    Is there a way for me to save the maps to Home Port that I have downloaded from my GPS onto an SD card? I'm getting used to the system and it works pretty good, but each time I want to use the program I have to remove the SD card from my GPS and attach it to my computer in order to have the detailed charts load. I've tried to save them in "My Garmin," but they don't show up when I get into HP.

    Thanks,

    Chief Trip