Film Testing Priority - February to March

IliaNSK said:

2024.25 Train with Profi 01 - Astana, Tollos
Good quality video. Just a short one. The message that the top of the first hill appeared already on the descent. But the gradient is good. There is no road feeling anywhere. And it shouldn't be.

v2 fixes the 1st KOM

IliaNSK said:

T2024.30 Train with Pros 06 - SDWorx - Castel de Castels
More cloudy video. The same message about the top of the first hill appeared a little later. The gradient is good. There is no road feeling. It's easier to ride with girls.

v4 fixes that KOM also cheers well spotted ;-)

Peter Scheuten said:

I wonder if/what the arrangements are with the teams

To add to this, just out of interest, I looked back into the dark ages of Tacx RLV production & it looks like we did our first Pro team camp film in 2007! Hardshells were still a thing to avoid for many of the older pro riders haha 

Phil70 said:

T2024.26

Train with Pros 02 - Total Energies, Tarbena

This should publish now in the next hours

v2 Trek Factory Racing 2024 - Val d'Ebo
Fun ride with nice views over the white blocks on the road.
Cadence of the cyclist seem a bit too high in the beginning?
There are two very short roadfeel sections in the beginning. I didn't experience roadfeel on the 2nd one. Might be the "bug" again or maybe my speed was just too high to notice.
Rest of the ride was good. I remember a small drop in resistance after the first stop/video cut.
Almost the entire team went the other way at some point. There were only 2 left, haha. The 2km v02max effort back up the hill was a nice touch.

v2 Q36.5 2024 - Port de Tudons
Yes! +10 points for this one. This was fun. Alternating between riders on this 17km climb. This was motivating me trying to do the "same" effort. Go out of the saddle when they do etc. And trying to keep a natural looking cadence compared to the pros :D
Funny to see they are capable to fool around with their phones during recovery, haha.
Cool bikes too, I own the same foil bike except theirs have a nicer paintjob :D and funny to see they use their aero bikes up the climb.
Great ride and I didn't notice anything to improve.

Fun to read that these "ride with the pros" style films go back to 2007.

I am wondering... are these films speed up at all? If you try to keep a natural looking cadence (motion) of the riders in the film, will you be anywhere near their effort? It's probably very hard to judge especially when they are doing their low-cadence, out of the saddle type of efforts.

Peter Scheuten said:

Cadence of the cyclist seem a bit too high in the beginning?

They were going fairly easy, plus the apps now have a very over zelous virtual speed when descending or any areas that we naturally ride slow (to avoid crashing haha).. if you hit such an area their cadence will be higher then normal.

Peter Scheuten said:

There are two very short roadfeel sections in the beginning. I didn't experience roadfeel on the 2nd one. Might be the "bug" again or maybe my speed was just too high to notice.

There are two short sections, I figured someone would not feel one of them ;-)

Peter Scheuten said:

If you try to keep a natural looking cadence (motion) of the riders in the film, will you be anywhere near their effort?

Yes, at least when on a climb!  Your watts/kg will be very close to the pro rider your following, what you cant feel though is the wind...in Tacx world its always perfect weather haha...For the Trek team there was 100kph gusts at the top of that climb ;-) 

Yes, there was a time... I thought it was 2010

IliaNSK said:

Yes, there was a time... I thought it was 2010

That was the 2nd time we did Rabobank (unless we did them a 3rd time it was one with some hill repeats & then some sprints at the end in 2010?). Filming Cadel training on the route he would later win his world championship was kind of cool!  The training with Milram was terrible though, forgot the sprinters name but he had been woken up at 5am by the EPO drug testers...he was not very happy! 

Yes, Rabobank there were hill repeats and sprints. 
I also can’t remember the sprinter’s name, but he was very famous.
How many new things I know!

Rabobank 2010 - Robert Gesink, Oscar Freire and Denis Menchov. I often did those short Hill repeats up to a reinstall of W10 and end of TTS4.

Cadel Evens was Ergo training on his favourite course near his house close to Lake Lugano, Switzerland. Killer climbs with slopes up to 20%

My favourite was Saxobank 2010 on the Canary Island of Fuerteventura,Spain. There was a long section where the skies turned dark while cycling on islands wide and sloping tarmac roads with views of the beautiful landscape. Superb

v2 Train with Pros 03 - Lotto DSTNY 1, Vall de la Gallinera (T2024.27) 

100% / 100% 

Connected ANT+ (Tacx) 
Beautiful video. Good terrain.
Road feeling - no road feeling.