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Training status

Former Member over 8 years ago

Yesterday I received an "Unproductive" status on the Training status page on my 935. Feedback to Garmin:

1) Pretty darn impressive considering I'm fighting a cold and had slept like complete crap the previous 2 nights which the Sleep screen in Connect confirmed.

2) How can my Lactate Threshold and my Aerobic training effect both been positive/improving during yesterday's activity while the overall status went into Unproductive?

3) OHR and pace and the run overall felt nothing out of the ordinary which means the data I was provided went against the old school rule of listening to your body and instead used the behind the scenes data. Again, pretty awesome, but also perplexing as one could question if you should listen to your body or listen to your Garmin.

4) I'm going to use my HRM-TRI for my next few runs to see what type of variance I get in my data, but to date I have found the OHR to behave just like my old chest strap, with the exception that it takes 5-10 seconds longer for it to come down from peak values at times, for example when transitioning from an uphill to a downhill.

I very much want to be able to utilize these tools as much as Polar users swear by the data Polar provides, however I'm somewhat confused on how to do so with unintended mixed messages being received. I gladly welcome anyone who can chime in on a more scientific level.

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

I still don't understand what unproductive means. If I get unproductive, does that mean I need to rest longer? I went for a four mile run yesterday at a very slow pace. Recovery time was 24 hours which should mean I could run tomorrow, but I'm unproductive which by definition says I should recover. I don't run that often either, once every other day. I guess when I see unproductive, I would naturally assume, without prior knowledge of the definition, that I'm not working out hard enough. Not that I'm working too hard to the point where it will do more damage than help. I could use some help on clarifying this.

0 Ollypsilon over 7 years ago

I still don't understand what unproductive means. If I get unproductive, does that mean I need to rest longer? I went for a four mile run yesterday at a very slow pace. Recovery time was 24 hours which should mean I could run tomorrow, but I'm unproductive which by definition says I should recover. I don't run that often either, once every other day. I guess when I see unproductive, I would naturally assume, without prior knowledge of the definition, that I'm not working out hard enough. Not that I'm working too hard to the point where it will do more damage than help. I could use some help on clarifying this.

Well, have a look here, should answer most of your questions: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/images/2...atures-DCR.pdf
And have a look at your Training Effect report in GC/GCM, gives you a graph which should "visualize" it.

0 chunkywizard over 7 years ago

thats a great document! That should be pinned to the top of the forum IMHO, it would answer a ton of questions

0 timgrose over 7 years ago

thats a great document! That should be pinned to the top of the forum IMHO, it would answer a ton of questions

Good idea! Just have with the new "Firstbeat features" thread.

0 ERock over 7 years ago

Just wanted to post a note of thanks and say how extremely helpful the above has been.

Between the FirstBeats PDF, the Garmin Running Dynamics page, and the Garmin Connect Training Status Report, I've been able to make use of the Training Status feature and look forward to making it work for me.