Battery life: real world burn rates vs specs

as usual, i'm coming at this from a perspective of having had the Forerunner 935 for more than 4 years. when i bought it, it was advertised as having up to 2 weeks smartwatch mode and up to 24 hour of GPS activities.

in the time i had it, i would say the 935 lived up to those specs and then some, even with me using a 3rd party watch face (JBlack) that displays seconds and HR at 1hz. even now at 4 years (still running FW13.00 which probably helps), i still see a roughly 4.5%/hr burn rate for GPS activity (1 sec recording, no GLONASS nor Galileo) and about 6+%/day for smartwatch mode (no notification alerts except for phone call). in the few instances when i was sick and inactive (not using GPS), it would always see a projection of 16 days of battery life in smartwatch mode.

the 945LTE has on paper, better specs than the 935 for battery duration under GPS usage, but i'm finding things to be significantly below spec. i admittedly only have a few hours of GPS measurements under my belt, but in similar settings as my 935, i'm estimating burn rate to be about 4%/hr which is about what i got with my 935 when new. nowhere near the 3%/hr that the 35 hours spec suggestions: . i don't see how i would get close to the 35 hour spec. perhaps, i will need to do a long duration, multi hour activity like a hike during my backpacking trip to get a more accurate numbers because it appears the updated version of the excelled BatteryMonitor widget seems to only round the reported battery percentage. (the old version on my 935 would report, perhaps somewhat inaccurately, the percentage to the nearest tenth)

similarly, the 945LTE, from again limited date, seems to burn through about 9-10% day in smart watch mode. so in this case, it will last less than my 935.

these aren't showstoppers by any stretch as the projected 24 hours of GPS will be enough for my backpacking trip and i can charge every 6-7 days rather than 8-10 days with my 935, but i'm a little disappointed.

i wonder if the battery capacity of the 945LTE is less than the 935, or perhaps the newer processor is a bit more power hungry.

i should note that i have PulseOx and wifi and LTE disabled, and while it's not an apples to apples comparison, i'm essentially running the same stuff (widgets and settings) as i am on my 935 but there are new things like the Body Battery that may or may not be using more power up.

what are your experiences? do you think the specs are legit? i know they say "up to"... i wonder if i should try a bare bones watch face with no seconds displayed and see what the basic burn rate is.

  • That sounds nice, maybe I'll try a different watch face or settings, I'd like to get my standby drain down.

    Other update for me - I did a late Fall OWS and forced LTE off before the start.  Normally I have LTE enabled and a phone w/ BLE connected in my safety buoy.  With my "normal" setup I've seen crazy battery draw (estimated 3-4 hrs total capacity) but with LTE forced off (in this 1 swim) I saw the expected 3%/hr drain.

    I suspect LTE and OWS don't interact well yet, or LTE+intermittent BLE...

  • I suspect we are beta testing the new LTE feature for free.

    Never, never, never buy the first iteration of a new Garmin technolog, says my mom LOL

  • glad to hear that your non-LTE numbers look fine for battery use. has tech support provided any sense of "we hear you and are working on it"?

    as i said before, for my use, i've very pleased with the activity battery drain as its an upgrade from my 935, but it's bothersome taht the standby drain is so much higher. hoping they figure it out but i've been just getting used to charging it once a week now.

    here's the face i was talking about:

    https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/97b7dcdb-c4dc-4ff7-8b19-12802c747355

    does what i want it to do, although i will probably revert back to my tried and true favorite for the past few years and just live with the 9%/day drain:

    https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/fb08cf7b-c165-4074-8d45-f75b791b863d

    i may have to drop the developer a note to see they would consider adding a battery saver mode like the Coros Apex face.

  • Damn this is my first Garmin watch and I do love it, coming from a pretty beat up Polar Vantage M. I honestly love the 945 LTE but damn the battery life is a hit and miss. Sometimes I get an average of 7-8% a day other rimes I get 20-30% a day battery drain. No explanation whatsoever.

    I cannot for the life of me understand how I can get such fluctuations while mantaining the same levels of activity, same watchface, same installed GarminConnect apps, with all connectivity options disabled except for when I run, etc.

    Garmin please, please, please figure this stuff out. I bet it's some software bug relating to the bluethooth and gps sensors so please fix this. Otherwise this is just a pretty decent $650 watch that can either work nicely for 8-10 days or a brick that barely works for more than 2 days. If I wanted a 2 days watch I would have stayed with my crappy Polar watch.

  • A positive battery life story...

    I ran a half marathon today and had Live Event Share working as well as LTE power save.  I wondered if the text messages would be delayed to a "power save" interval (5 minutes?) and also what the total battery drain would look like.

    In the end the SMS appear to come at the right interval and the battery drain estimate is approx 4% per hour with total estimated capacity (if fully charged) of 25 hours.

    I still think the power save live track does NOT backfill the same detail as normal live track (i.e. even though it connects more rarely it's ben said that it fills in the missing time properly).  If I review an "extended" live track after an activity complete, I notice large gaps between course points with power save on, but a nice smooth course with power save NOT on.

  • I had 5% drain each 24h with default watchface and everything OFF (OX, WIFI, Bluetooth, OHR...). So i don't have sleep score, body battery, etc...

    If I activate OHR the drain is 10% each 24h.

    I will test with a watchface with only hours and minutes (I think this is the way to obtain the 14 days than Garmin claim in the manual, but all sensors OFF, of course).

    I'm not happy with the battery drain in watch mode.

  • yeah, that's really poor.

    on my 935, using a standard watch face with OHR and bluetooth on, it would consume about 4% per day. with one of my favorite watch faces which included 1hz HR on the watch face (the standard watch faces did not include it), it was 5-6%/day. that same set up on the 945LTE is about 9%/day. 

  • I’d be disappointed if they expect you to turn all that off for their stated 14 day life.

    Secondly, my watch estimates 14 days if charged to 100% with OHR on.  It then discharges at a rate that would be lucky to get 7 days.  Still, if I go to power saver and toggle OHR it implies I’ll get much more life.  Based on that I don’t think they expect it to be off for 14 day life, but sadly it misses 14 days badly under fairly “normal” smartwatch settings (basically only a phone connection and OHR).