Fenix 5X - 7.93 Public Beta

What precisely was done to RHR?

Hi, two questions:

1. Does this beta address the issue of weight data being overwritten as discussed at length here: https://forums.garmin.com/forum/into...-connect/page9 ? We have one report of the issue going away with this firmware rather than 7.6.

UPDATE: forget question 1. The person the reporting issue going away has just posted that it hasn’t been resolved. He lost his dat as usual.

2. What damage could I do by installing this firmware on my Fenix 5x which I bought and use in Australia? I note that you say it is not for Asia Pac region.

Thanks.

What damage could I do by installing this firmware on my Fenix 5x which I bought and use in Australia? I note that you say it is not for Asia Pac region.

The firmware should not be loaded on an APAC version of the watch. Not all watches bought in the Asia Pacific region will be APAC versions though. I would not expect an Australian watch to be an APAC version.

If your watch is running firmware 7.60 then it is not an APAC version since APAC versions are still running 6.x as APAC firmware tends to lag behind the rest of the world.

I am not sure the official way to determine if a watch is an APAC version. I know the part numbers are different, maybe it specifically has APAC on the box? Maybe someone else can answer this, but you will be safe if you are currently running 7.60.

If you look at garmindevice.xml on the watch, it has the part number. The ROW f5x is 006-B2604-00 and APAC is 006-B2798-00 (you can find these in the devices.xml file in the CIQ SDK)

After a bit of experimentation, it looks like RHR as decided by the F5X is worthless to me now.

When HR is on overnight, RHR appears to be selected based on an average across a certain amount of time, while sleeping is detected (not necessarily based on sleep hours as set in GC). If HR is turned off overnight and turned on in the morning, it still seems to select a value across a time frame. This value only seems to ever go up during the day, and will not lower when HR less than the determined RHR is present.

This morning I turned HR on and registered a low of 48 while getting ready for my run. After my run, resting HR on the watch was 57. My HR has been well below this at many times since my run, but the watch will not log an updated RHR value.

As someone who does all of his easy runs by heart rate reserve, having an accurate RHR across time is a pretty important part of that. Now I cannot get an accurate RHR value leaving settings at "normal", switching around my sleep times in GC, or by turning off HR during the night.

Honestly, RHR is my only real complaint about this watch. Why can't we get a simple "RHR = lowest observed HR while awake" option?

+1 for someone who is also curious about how the RHR is calculated. Agree with the comments above that it appears to be an average across some set of time during a single day. Yet, I've always thought ones RHR was determined by the "absolute" lowest HR, ie when you're totally at rest. It would make sense to me, to take the low water mark for the day and have that be the RHR shown. Then take the low RHR for each day and use those across a series of days to calculate a trend, weekly average, etc

Agreed on RHR. My biggest issue with an otherwise great product. Also there has been more heart rate double counting of late.

My Garmin 235 gives double heart rate in cold weather. My cardiologist indicates I have 200 to 300 milli seconds between P and Q waves on an EKG which appears to confuse the Garmin HR. My old Suunto Ambit did not this issue. Another running buddy gave up and is now using his Polar which does not gove the double heart beat. It is worse in winter before warm-up

To the beta team: I have the varia which I use with the 5x. When "doing course" on the watch there are two turn direction pop ups. The first comes a little ahead of the turn and the second usually after the turn was already made. That by itself is a problem as I am sure that the second turn warning should come prior to the turn. However, my main issue is on the Varia I only get one turn warning and unfortunately its the second one in the sequence. So on the Varia I only get one warning and its the one after the turn has already been made so its not very useful. Please address this on your next upgrade and hopefully you can also address when these turn warnings pop up on the watch itself.

With this beta firmware, the floors climbed stat has stopped. I sometimes have to restart the watch to make it work again. Very annoying.