How to add waypoints to a course?

Training Centre is probably the problem here.
Create your tcx fles in gpsies or similar and convert to fit with McBadger tool then drop them inot the newfiles folder of cable attached F5X. And yes, use follow course.

Thanks WillCW. As the solution worked perfectly with Training Centre and my 920XT, I assumed Training Centre was ok for maintaining waypoints. But assumptions are dangerous. I shall give your suggestion a go for my run on Monday.

I can confirm that using WillCW instructions that intermediate waypoints are recognized on the F5x and it works great. As stated using GPSies and the McBadger tool creates a .fit file that works appropriately. I tried exporting a .fit from GPSies but as several places said it doesn't have all the correct information so it didn't work as expected. If you are doing this for cycling you can do as the instructions said and let GPSies create turn by adding a cue sheet. It does a pretty good job of picking up the turns. You can click each point it created and delete ones you don't want or edit the name or type of point. If you are doing this for hiking and want points for things like water sources, summits, etc you can just create them manually within the tool. Again you can name them and set them to whatever type you'd like. The watch does recognize the different types of points like generic or water. I haven't tried many of them. While navigating, the fields like next waypoint, distance to next, eta at next all work correctly. As you approach one of the designated points a black section pops up along the bottom of whatever screen you are on and starts the countdown to the point and shows a symbol representing the type of point. Turn types show the apporpriate arrow. Generic type shows a flag and water shows a drop of water. Someone mentioned needing to separately work with the waypoints to be able to see them on the map but that wasn't the case. Thanks to all the comments and knowledge sharing on this. I'm very excited to use this on backpacking trips.

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Training Centre is probably the problem here.
Create your tcx fles in gpsies or similar and convert to fit with McBadger tool then drop them inot the newfiles folder of cable attached F5X. And yes, use follow course.

When converting from TCX to FIT using the McBadger tool rather than Training Centre, everything worked perfectly fine. Thank you for the help WillCW.

Glad to help you guys establish an effective work flow. May the fun begin.

I can confirm that using WillCW instructions that intermediate waypoints are recognized on the F5x and it works great. As stated using GPSies and the McBadger tool creates a .fit file that works appropriately. I tried exporting a .fit from GPSies but as several places said it doesn't have all the correct information so it didn't work as expected. If you are doing this for cycling you can do as the instructions said and let GPSies create turn by adding a cue sheet. It does a pretty good job of picking up the turns. You can click each point it created and delete ones you don't want or edit the name or type of point. If you are doing this for hiking and want points for things like water sources, summits, etc you can just create them manually within the tool. Again you can name them and set them to whatever type you'd like. The watch does recognize the different types of points like generic or water. I haven't tried many of them. While navigating, the fields like next waypoint, distance to next, eta at next all work correctly. As you approach one of the designated points a black section pops up along the bottom of whatever screen you are on and starts the countdown to the point and shows a symbol representing the type of point. Turn types show the apporpriate arrow. Generic type shows a flag and water shows a drop of water. Someone mentioned needing to separately work with the waypoints to be able to see them on the map but that wasn't the case. Thanks to all the comments and knowledge sharing on this. I'm very excited to use this on backpacking trips.

I'm glad this works. Why is Garmin making us do all this though? The functionality is native to the watch but it doesn't seem like there is any way to actually use it within the garmin ecosystem. I want to be able to create waypoints in garmin connect online and wirelessly sync that course to my watch.

I can confirm that using WillCW instructions that intermediate waypoints are recognized on the F5x and it works great. As stated using GPSies and the McBadger tool creates a .fit file that works appropriately. I tried exporting a .fit from GPSies but as several places said it doesn't have all the correct information so it didn't work as expected. If you are doing this for cycling you can do as the instructions said and let GPSies create turn by adding a cue sheet. It does a pretty good job of picking up the turns. You can click each point it created and delete ones you don't want or edit the name or type of point. If you are doing this for hiking and want points for things like water sources, summits, etc you can just create them manually within the tool. Again you can name them and set them to whatever type you'd like. The watch does recognize the different types of points like generic or water. I haven't tried many of them. While navigating, the fields like next waypoint, distance to next, eta at next all work correctly. As you approach one of the designated points a black section pops up along the bottom of whatever screen you are on and starts the countdown to the point and shows a symbol representing the type of point. Turn types show the apporpriate arrow. Generic type shows a flag and water shows a drop of water. Someone mentioned needing to separately work with the waypoints to be able to see them on the map but that wasn't the case. Thanks to all the comments and knowledge sharing on this. I'm very excited to use this on backpacking trips.

Could you confirm that you do or do not see the waypoints on the map on the watch while navigating? I just went through this workflow and when I opened up the course map in an activity I didn't see any of the waypoints I created on it.

I just started one of these courses just sitting here and looked at the map to make sure and what's interesting is that it shows a label with the name I gave the point but it doesn't show a symbol of any sort. I had not noticed the other day that there was no symbol on the map like a typical waypoint. I looked in the saved locations list and these course points aren't waypoints in the list. So these are apparently being picked up as part of the course information. So that may explain the difference. To further test, I added a waypoint as a true saved location for one of the course points and it shows the symbol and label for it as well as the label for the course point so the label portion is duplicated. If you want the symbol to help identify the exact position of the point then you'll want to import the waypoints separately to have them show on the map.

Could you confirm that you do or do not see the waypoints on the map on the watch while navigating? I just went through this workflow and when I opened up the course map in an activity I didn't see any of the waypoints I created on it.

If you produce your tcx file from gpsies or similar and convert to fit before dropping inot newfiles folder on watch you get the TBT, etc but not waypoints on the map.

If you want these as well you must produce a gpx file of waypoints to drop into newfiles.

Then you will see course tack, selected waypoints and your TBTs.

All a bit long winded I know. What we need is for Garmin to sort out a fully functional navigation facility in Basecamp.

WillCW, first of all thank for your post!
I was away for some time and forgot about this.

Today I've made an attempt to reproduce all your steps. Unfortunately I failed for a reason that I don't understand.

Here is what I did:

1) Created a short course in gpsies http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=pcpyflwnlslyevnl
2) Added one waypoint
3) Exported by selecting: Track & Waypoint -> Garmin Course TCX
4) Imported the TCX to Sportrack and added two more coursepoints (changed their names)
5) Exported that again as tcx and converted it to FIT using MCBADGER tool.
6) Placed resulting fit to /NEWFILES/ folder

Course appeard in watch, ive started navigation and discovered that elevation plot is there and showing data (I belive there was a problem with that)


Unfortunately I couldnt see waypoints I added. Instead I got alerted every 20m with generic waypoints named 001, 002 and so on...



I'm not sure what went wrong but clearly that's not something that I aimed for :(

If anyone is willing to help, here are the files from gpsies, sporttrack, mcbadger that I generated / used / converted
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgJh_YDCjP-ngb9ihFEA2R-Vu_lj8A

WillCW, first of all thank for your post!
I was away for some time and forgot about this.

Today I've made an attempt to reproduce all your steps. Unfortunately I failed for a reason that I don't understand.

Here is what I did:

1) Created a short course in gpsies http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=pcpyflwnlslyevnl
2) Added one waypoint
3) Exported by selecting: Track & Waypoint -> Garmin Course TCX
4) Imported the TCX to Sportrack and added two more coursepoints (changed their names)
5) Exported that again as tcx and converted it to FIT using MCBADGER tool.
6) Placed resulting fit to /NEWFILES/ folder

Course appeard in watch, ive started navigation and discovered that elevation plot is there and showing data (I belive there was a problem with that)


Unfortunately I couldnt see waypoints I added. Instead I got alerted every 20m with generic waypoints named 001, 002 and so on...



I'm not sure what went wrong but clearly that's not something that I aimed for :(

If anyone is willing to help, here are the files from gpsies, sporttrack, mcbadger that I generated / used / converted
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgJh_YDCjP-ngb9ihFEA2R-Vu_lj8A