wrist HR

hi,

yes lack of spikes is more important.

and this lead to the “horizontal line” in graphics.

in my example with constant 105 bpm I’m sure it is a value read some time before.
and actually was not able to see my real pulse.
when cannot read garmin let the last record value to fill the interval.
i saw for HR and elevation also, giving “horizontal line”.

have a good one!
robert

it seems that wHR sensor with it`s SW equipment suffers from different types of errors....in my case, most of the time, I have problems with too many sudden deviations, which are not usual for HR...normaly HR value needs some time to follow our effort (not like power value, that changes immediately)...and after we start to go easy HR also starts to lower after some time (few seconds)...but all that without wird spikes...
cheers

i bought a used polar a360 just to have something to compare. WHR on polar is much better and faster.
Fenix 5 on left arm and Polar on right.

avg hr garmin 98
avg hr Polar 117













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Jezdec there are many many threads on this both on Garmin forums and forums for other manufacturers. If you need reasonably consistent and accurate HR readings for your activities then a chest strap is really the only sensible route.

hi,
Rijald ...I flattened and broaden garmin record to match the time and scale of polar.
... compared it is not as bad.
there is a portion where garmin might have lost the HR track, but ...



and yes, chest HRM rocks...but it is about different measurements (electrical vs. optical)

just me,
robert

Geroelltrampel polar a360 gets one of the worst accuracy ratings from DCRAINMAKER and numerous complaints in other forums - also it's not a GPS device amongst many other things it doesn't do. The Fenix is overpriced agreed but you seem to be avoiding the very simple fact that wrist based HR tracking is just not going to be accurate in many situations for many people regardless of whether its GArmin, Apple, Polar etc - it is designed and useful mainly for 24/7 monitoring

robert.kirr yes indeed Chest HRM is about different measurements - one is electrical picking up the electrical impulse straight from the hear area and the other is using secondary source of information remote from the heart so starts with huge inbuilt disadvantages - if you want accuracy to train using HR and particullarly to track intensive efforts and activities where HR varies a large amount (e.g. intervals) then a wrist based monitor from any manufacturer is unlikely to give sufficiently accurate and responsive results

Geroelltrampel I'm not avoiding the fact that it is wrist based HR I just think the endless debating of innaccuracy of wrist based devices (not just Garmin - look at most other forums) is a waste of time because it is so personal and depends on the morphology of the individual as well as the exact way in which they are performing an activity. As for DC Rainmaker - yes his word is not Gospel but on the whole he does perform tests with a reasonable level of methodology and objectivity in a real-life environment (admittedly a triathon biased environment).

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robert.kirr yes indeed Chest HRM is about different measurements - one is electrical picking up the electrical impulse straight from the hear area and the other is using secondary source of information remote from the heart so starts with huge inbuilt disadvantages - if you want accuracy to train using HR and particullarly to track intensive efforts and activities where HR varies a large amount (e.g. intervals) then a wrist based monitor from any manufacturer is unlikely to give sufficiently accurate and responsive results

hi,
this is exactly what I wanted to stress.

I use HRM tri-sport for everything outside pool and HRM swim (in pool).
even on MTB, fenix is on my handlebar for radar information, so HRM tri.

please take into account that some get along better with HRM.
I'm one of them.
my colleague is not as happy, especially when he is running.

what makes the difference?
...blood vessels anatomy on your wrist.
...my colleague reported also differences when wearing it on the left or on the right hand.
...the outside temperature - blood vessels can shrink
...the sweat that can make the watch move on your wrist and also the sweat layer that could affect the measurements (the sweat for HRM tri helps...)

so, I consider optical HRM like a more informative one, and electrical as precise.

just me,
robert