BaseCamp Profiles do nothing 'Hiking, MTB, Walking, Off road etc all routed to road

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I have just bought a Montana 650 with V5pro Spain TOPO maps. The profile function is doing nothing (and when you select a different profile, there is also suspiciously no delay for processing the new route according to the alleged profile type, so it proves it is doing nothing). In basecamp no matter which profile I choose (even hiking), it always routes me along roads, even though I deselected roads, on the edit of the off road profile and left just unpaved (again this does nothing).

I also tried to create a track from the route and then created a 'direct route' from the selected track (as suggested by Garmin). No matter what, it still puts me on roads.

The attachments are just an example, it will never route me anywhere but a road. In the example, on the google image it shows a very popular off road track that runs left to a main road (the a-92). See the Garmin image, it puts me on the a-92 ignoring the perfect off road track to the left.:mad:





BTW I have made sure the map detail of the TOPO map is set to 'highest' in the drop down.
  • Well there you're referring to the map not Basecamp. As I said, I don't know enough about that particular map. If you feel it doesn't do what it says it should do take it back, but I see nothing in the description that says it will route along every possible trail.

    As for why not a paper map, your GPS tells you exactly where you are on the map and provides all sorts of other data for you. Whether that's what you need/want I don't know. My Montana works fine for me when I'm hiking and also acts as a car satnav if necessary.
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    To conclude, I bought the 650 with the TOPO map specifically for trekking and off road, even that isn't enough, apparently that map possibly doesn't have programmable routes for trekking/off road. This should all be clearly stated in the advertisement. It's like buying a washing machine that doesn't accept detergent. Thanks anyway
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    Well there you're referring to the map not Basecamp. As I said, I don't know enough about that particular map. If you feel it doesn't do what it says it should do take it back, but I see nothing in the description that says it will route along every possible trail.

    As for why not a paper map, your GPS tells you exactly where you are on the map and provides all sorts of other data for you. Whether that's what you need/want I don't know. My Montana works fine for me when I'm hiking and also acts as a car satnav if necessary.


    BTW thanks for your responses I didn't realise you weren't a Garmin employee
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    Well TOPO U.S. 100K maps don't contain any autorouting data--all routes must be point-to-point (direct). Other TOPO's do contain routing data. As for yours I don't know (the wording is ambiguous to me).

    I am starting to think mine doesn't and I have a donkey head for believing the cleverly worded advertisements (written with lawyers present) anyway I guess I will have to point to point it for 30 of 40 hours that should do it, great fun, yey, jee.
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    RANT WARNING! So Garmin let me get this straight, Basecamp in conjunction with the Montana 650 will only be able to suggest non on road routes (between locations I choose) only if the map used has these tracks as programmable? So is this how Garmin manages to avoid a lawsuit? let's say Garmin can prove that it works because they use a map maybe the only map in existence that has programmable off road routes maybe a map of 2 sq kms of northern Denmark, then from this they are free to market the items as having this capability?
  • Well no 'map routing program' can route along paths etc that aren't routeable in the map itself. Garmin is no different. I use a mix of Garmin and OSM mapping. Both have maps that are routeable and non routeable but none guarantee to have every possible trail/path/road etc shown.

    Neither of course do paper maps.
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    But it only does that if I pin the off road route all the way myself
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    Furthermore when I mouse over any of the unpaved roads on the map (roads that have not been included in the auto routing) it says 'unpaved road' so the map and basecamp know the unpaved road is there, so why it cannot use it to create a route is still baffling
  • Just because it knows what it is doesn't mean it's marked as routeable in the map database.
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    Just because it knows what it is doesn't mean it's marked as routeable in the map database.

    Why isn't it?