BaseCamp and Zumo first impressions not promising

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Just getting to grips with my new Zumo350 and BaseCamp.

The Zumo seems to be a reasonable sat nav but the screen is a bit cluttered with stuff that gets in the way of the map. In my preferred 2d display mode the auto zoom on approach to junctions is so weak that I'm not even sure it has this functionality. In 3d view it's better. Lane guidance is similarly poor. Overall, not as good as the 6 year old TomTom I have in my car but the Zumo seems to be well made, is right for a motorbike and I'm sure will do what it says on the tin.

Then there's BaseCamp. What a piece of junk. Looks like a lot of very promising features but it simply does not do the fundamental function of simply planning a desired route. To start with it does not do drag and drop of the route! Come on chaps, this is 2015 you know.

I tried to create a route from A to B and then add C, D and E. How in the name of all things holy do I do that? After hours of fiddling about I managed it. Once. But forgot how I eventually did it so gave up.

Not to be that easily defeated I tried planning the route A to E and then tried adding B, C and D. Well, inserting a point just screws up the whole affair. Where in the list of waypoints it inserts a new point is somewhere between random and obscure. Moving points up and down the list causes hilarious results. I planned this journey with its start, finish with three waypoints intended to ensure I was routed along roads I wanted. In reality the journey is 9 miles. BaseCamp turned it into an epic 37 mile trip! Great route for a bimble about on a Saturday afternoon but as a tool to get me from A to E pretty useless.

I've spent hours changing route preferences to try and figure out how they work. I'm really sorry but I live in the UK and we don't have Interstates and State Highways. In BaseCamp a Motorway seems to be deemed an Interstate in if it's, say, the M6 but becomes a State Highway if its, say, the M58 and maybe a Major Highway if it's say the M56. Not good.

Then there's the map detail. I set the detail quite high, high enough to see what's what without having to zoom in too close and loose my bearings. When I do this the roads are cluttered and obscured by thousands of shopping trolleys, petrol station symbols, knife & fork symbols and other miscellaneous and largely irrelevant dross. I'm sure there is a way to turn it all off but frankly I've had a look and lost interest.

I would urge you chaps at Garmin to take a short look at Tyre. It doesn't have all the nice bells and whistles BaseCamp has but it does a first rate job of planning a route. It is simple, intuitive, uses Google Maps that are detailed and accurate. Drag and drop is a breeze. Adding points is simple and reliable. It actually plans a sensible route. In short, it works.

In summary, all the bells and whistles are useless if the basic route planning does not work simply, effectively, predictably and reliably.
  • Former Member
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    I've never experienced Basecamp getting 'confused'.

    I did, several times (BC Windows only), working with the hand tool to move and add via-points.


    Certainly if all you want to do is create and send the odd route to your GPS there are all sorts of ways to do so. I use it to plan both hiking and driving routes, plus geocaching and planning for my local search and rescue team. I have various Garmin maps and around 10 OSM maps installed on my PC for BaseCamp to use.


    This also implies that BaseCamp is not easy to learn or easy to use (at first), it is possible to do so many tasks that it's confusing for first time users.


    I don't know any other free program that would cope with all of that and interact seamlessly with my 5 GPS.

    Did you ever searched for them? Probably not. Qlandkarte GT, CompeGPS LAND all can manage multiple routes/waypoints/tracks and show on the map. Try them just for fun.
    BaseCamp is for me also the most friendly to use, but work with it the most and longest. LAND however does a good job, especially with integration of additional services like dropbox, everytrail, gpsies, usage of offline OSM maps and also online OSM maps, including world DEM information. Garmin can learn something there (and not stick to adventures or connect only).
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    Try having a go with www.motogoloco.com

    Much easier planning and uplinks straight to your Garmin if you have the browser plugin installed.

    I'm planning a 7 day 2000 mile trip on it at the moment.