Waypoint averaging corrupts the userdata.gpx for Basecamp

Former Member
Former Member
Hi,

I did a quick search for averaging, but could not find that this is reported already.

What I have:
- Oregon 450 v4.47
- Basecamp 3.2.1

What I did:
  • Created Waypoints in Basecamp
  • Exported the Waypoints to my Oregon (to the SD Drive, not the internal one)
  • Walked to all my Waypoints, placed them correctly and for some others which where OK I used the Averaging feature in my Oregon
  • When I came back home, I started Basecamp and plugged in my Oregon
  • Basecamp told me that the userdata.gpx on the SD drive of my Oregon is corrupt. I was not able to see any of my waypoints


I had a look at the GPX file and the only thing that my Oregon seems to have changed (apart from the Coordinates) is, that it added an additional Tag to save the # of "Averages" I did on my device for the particular Waypoint.

One of the Waypoints looked like this:
<wpt lat="47.123456" lon="9.123456">
<ele>600.235840</ele>
<time>2011-07-19T10:58:46Z</time>
<name>GC1SFinal</name>
<cmt>Testpoint</cmt>
<desc>Testpoint</desc>
<sym>Circle with X</sym>
<extensions>
<gpxx:WaypointExtension><gpxx:Samples>2</gpxx:Samples>
<gpxx:DisplayMode>SymbolAndName</gpxx:DisplayMode>
</gpxx:WaypointExtension>
</extensions>
</wpt>


Pay attention to the <gpxx:Samples> Tag here!

I altered the file and changed to waypoint to this:
<wpt lat="47.123456" lon="9.123456">
<ele>600.235840</ele>
<time>2011-07-19T10:58:46Z</time>
<name>GC1SFinal</name>
<cmt>Testpoint</cmt>
<desc>Testpoint</desc>
<sym>Circle with X</sym>
<extensions>
<gpxx:WaypointExtension><gpxx:DisplayMode>SymbolAndName</gpxx:DisplayMode>
</gpxx:WaypointExtension>
</extensions>
</wpt>


After that, Basecamp was able to read the userdata.gpx again and I was able to see the Waypoints in Basecamp again.

For me this looks like a Bug and I would be happy if this gets fixed in the next Version. On the other hand, if I´m doing something wrong here, please tell me.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member
    Is that the most current firmware on the Montana?

    Can you check for firmware updates for the Montana in BaseCamp? And let me know the firmware version your Montana is running.

    If this indeed happens in the most current version, I will let someone on the Montana team know.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member
    The latest firmware for the Montana is v4.20. I am not having the Elevation error on my Montana 650 but I am still having the
    <wptx1:Samples>2</wptx1:Samples>
    issue when I Average a Waypoint. So it doesn't appear to be fixed.

    It would be nice if BaseCamp would give an error message when it could not validate a data object aside from just not loading the object.

    Cheers,
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member
    Basecamp says my Montana's firmware is v4.20 and v4.20 is the latest firmware.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member
    This may be a duplicate post, because my screen went white when trying the last time. I've had this waypoint averaging problem with my Etrex 30 and my 62s. Both times I was able to fix it by importing the track into MapSource 6.16.3 (which was more forgiving) and saving it. I could then import the track into BaseCamp.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member
    I found what the problem is with waypoint averaged points not being compatible with Basecamp, at least for my Montana 650, firmware version 4.20.
    When averaging, the unit writes the <wptx1:Samples>2</wptx1:Samples> code before the "categories" section. When I moved the "samples" code to after </wptx1:Categories> Basecamp reads the waypoint file fine. see below:

    <wpt lat="39.197759" lon="-79.608129">
    <ele>556.344849</ele>
    <time>2012-08-15T16:06:03Z</time><name>DRIVEX</name>
    <cmt>30-AUG-08 13:03</cmt>
    <desc>30-AUG-08 13:03</desc>
    <sym>Waypoint</sym>
    <extensions>
    <wptx1:WaypointExtension><wptx1:Samples>2</wptx1:Samples>
    <wptx1:DisplayMode>SymbolAndName</wptx1:DisplayMode>
    <wptx1:Categories>
    <wptx1:Category>Waypoints_from_2009</wptx1:Category>
    <wptx1:Category>Sep22-2009-wpt</wptx1:Category>
    </wptx1:Categories>
    </wptx1:WaypointExtension>
    </extensions>
    </wpt>

    changed to;
    <wpt lat="39.197759" lon="-79.608129">
    <ele>556.344849</ele>
    <time>2012-08-15T16:06:03Z</time><name>DRIVEX</name>
    <cmt>30-AUG-08 13:03</cmt>
    <desc>30-AUG-08 13:03</desc>
    <sym>Waypoint</sym>
    <extensions>
    <wptx1:WaypointExtension>
    <wptx1:DisplayMode>SymbolAndName</wptx1:DisplayMode>
    <wptx1:Categories>
    <wptx1:Category>Waypoints_from_2009</wptx1:Category>
    <wptx1:Category>Sep22-2009-wpt</wptx1:Category>
    </wptx1:Categories>
    <wptx1:Samples>2</wptx1:Samples>
    </wptx1:WaypointExtension>
    </extensions>
    </wpt>

    seems like Basecamp is being pretty picky.