Strange Waypoint Notations in Basecamp

Former Member over 9 years ago

I currently have 50 waypoints (saved places) and 28 routes stored in my nuvi 2789. I sent all this data to BaseCamp. If I look at this list of data in BaseCamp, all looks well. I see my 50 waypoints and my 28 routes.

When I highlight any one of my routes in BaseCamp, I see the route on the map. And when I double-click on one of the routes, the Route Properties Screen opens up for that route. The Properties Tab itself shows a list of what it calls Via Points. And that's where the data notation gets a little strange.

For example, I have only one Home waypoint. But BaseCamp assigns a number to this Home waypoint according to the route position in the route list. For the first route in my list, the Home Waypoint is called Home1; for the 2nd route it's called Home2; all the way out to the last route to or from my house, where it's called Home28.

Similarly, other waypoints that are repeated get assigned a number. For example, in the route from my house to my son Ron's house, his waypoint is called Ron's House1. Then for the route from his house to mine, his waypoint is called Ron's House 2. But I actually only have one waypoint for his house - Ron's House.

When I view any of my routes on the BaseCamp map, these sequential numbers do not appear, i.e., my Home waypoint is always shown as Home, and never Home1, Home2, Home3, etc.

Why is BaseCamp sequentially numbering the waypoints when they appear on the route Properties Screen? I wonder what purpose that serves? It's the same whether I view the data in "Data received from nuvi 2789" or in "My Collection".

Any ideas? Have other users experienced this notation scheme?

0 BTLAAKE over 9 years ago

Try changing the Symbol of your Home Waypoint. Check to see if the Symbol for Home# in one of your routes changed to the same Symbol and report back.

If you have a route that just uses Home without an appended number check to see if its symbol changed.

Just to be clear, you have a Home Waypoint and no Home Waypoints with an appended number? Does one of your Routes us Home without and appended number?

0 SUSSAMB over 9 years ago

I think the answer here is that Durango sent the data initially from his GPS to BaseCamp. Creating data/routes correctly in BaseCamp shouldn't result in numbers being appended.

0 BTLAAKE over 9 years ago

I think the answer here is that Durango sent the data initially from his GPS to BaseCamp. Creating data/routes correctly in BaseCamp shouldn't result in numbers being appended.

It is possible to do this in BaseCamp (at least in my older version).

Waypoints/Via Points/Shaping points require a name. When adding points to a Route by clicking on the map, it will assign the name of the nearest map object.

In an empty list create a Waypoint and change the symbol to a Square. (Symbols occupy a box and the map location is always the center of the box and not, for example the point of a Pin or Flag).

Create two Routes by clicking on the map. For the first Route zoom in and carefully click in the center of the Waypoint symbol. For the second point click anywhere on the map and press the Esc key to stop Route creation.

For the second Route, zoom in and click on the lower left corner of the Waypoint symbol and anywhere else on the map for the second point, then press the Esc key to stop map creation.

The properties of the first Route should show the Waypoint name and use the Waypoint Symbol. The second route will use the Waypoint name with an appended number, but the Symbol will be that of a Via Point (a dot). If you look at Waypoints in My Collection, you will find the Waypoint we created, but not a Waypoint with the same name and an appended number.

This is because Via/Shaping points are a location but not a Waypoint. Because Waypoints and Via/Shaping points are Locations, they can not share the same name.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

I think the answer here is that Durango sent the data initially from his GPS to BaseCamp. Creating data/routes correctly in BaseCamp shouldn't result in numbers being appended.

No, initially I created most all my data/routes in BaseCamp and sent them to my nuvi. But when I sent them to my nuvi, this process did not delete waypoints and routes already on my nuvi, so I ended up with some duplications. At that point I deleted everything from my nuvi and repeated the process of downloading everything from BaseCamp. That's when my troubles began, so I must have done something wrong in the process.

Too many of you good people are having to spend too much time helping me with this issue, and for that I apologize.

However, I have one last request. The waypoint & route data on my nuvi is exactly like I want it. So is there a way to deleted all data from BaseCamp, download the good data from my nuvi, and then have BaseCamp appear and operate like it should?

Thanks again to all..

0 SUSSAMB over 9 years ago

Sorry, that's not what I understood from the comment in your first post:

I currently have 50 waypoints (saved places) and 28 routes stored in my nuvi 2789. I sent all this data to BaseCamp

However as for your query, yes, just delete it all then connect your device and copy the data from it.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

@Durango,

To expand on SUSSAMB's comment, select My Collection, select everything in it, hit the delete key on your keyboard or left-click the mouse and select Delete. When it tells you this will also delete everything from all lists select Yes. That should toast everything.

To be sure it's all gone, My Collection should be empty and there should no longer be any lists or folders.

@BTLAAKE,

Thanks for the description of a method to create numbered waypoint names. In your description, the numbered waypoints really are seperate waypoints because the location is not identical. Combined with the fact that Basecamp decides to use the name of a nearby feature rather than asking you for a new name, that explains perfectly why it needs a new name to distinguish the fact it's not the identical location.

Again, thanks.

...ken...

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

Sorry, that's not what I understood from the comment in your first post:

I currently have 50 waypoints (saved places) and 28 routes stored in my nuvi 2789. I sent all this data to BaseCamp

You are absolutely correct, SUSSAMB. That is what I said, so now I will try and recall the sequence of events that lead to my confusion. I do know that when I first got my nuvi 2789, I used Trip Planner to create a few routes around where I live. But then I installed BaseCamp on my new computer and used it to create my 50 waypoints and 28 routes, which I then downloaded to my nuvi. But I forgot to delete the waypoints and routes already on my nuvi, so I had some duplications. I then deleted everything from my nuvi and once again downloaded my 50 waypoints and 28 routes from BC.

Shortly thereafter we had a power surge and my nuvi got all hosed up while connected to my computer; for some reason, the nuvi did not immediately go on battery power. To restore my nuvi, you advised me (on another forum) that it was probably best to copy my nuvi data back into BC and restore it from there. So that's what I did. Then using BC, I restored my data to what I wanted and again downloaded it to my nuvi after first purging the old data. That download gave me a good set of data on my nuvi

So as you can see, I had data going to/from BC to/from my nuvi, so that is probably how things got messed up in BC. That's why I want to delete everything in BC and start fresh. If I do this and upload my good data from my nuvi to an empty My Collection, is there any precaution I should take to avoid sequential numbering of waypoints in BC like I currently have (e.g., Home, Home1, Home2,...)?

Thanks again for everyone's patience and guidance.

0 SUSSAMB over 9 years ago

Impossible to say without knowing exactly what's on your device, but if you delete everything from BaseCamp and load your data from your nuvi we'll find out.

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

From BTLAAKE's latest description combined with my experience last night it seems reasonable to expect that you will only get numbered waypoints IF:

A. The coordinates are NOT identical, and
B. The name used is the same and therefore requires distinction to make it clear it's a different location.

If you get this before you have cleaned out Basecamp, look at the coordinates in the properties for any two of your HOMEx waypoints and see if they are identical. The only potential problem with this comparison is that if they are really close together Basecamp may round the coordinates so they appear identical.

...ken...

0 Former Member over 9 years ago

OK, Ken, SUSSAMB, BTLAAKE, and others. I will delete everything in BC then download my nuvi data and we will see what happens. And Ken, I will check the Home coordinates first as you advised.

I may not get this done until tomorrow, but will keep you posted on the results. Fingers crossed.........

Thanks again.